Yeah, because we all know she wins majors internationally and is a very popular character that is used by most top players :P *lol* Rose is fair :P I think the biggest issue you have with the matchup is that you actually have to think before you act instead of auto-piloting your way to victory. There's nothing wrong with that. In a 5-5, that's exactly how it should be. No room for error - the winner is the one who screws up less. But please play her *lol* I encourage it wholeheartedly. You might actually learn something about space control and legitimate footsies using a fundamentals-based character. I'd love to see how you do against the other guys on Sat using Rose :P On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:55 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Yup, because that move lost me life. Lets never do that again. > > Sap, I'm doing Soul Spiral backdash and slides forever now and going to > win. Rose unfair. > > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >> Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which is *probably >>> what happened*. >> >> >> FTFY. >> >> Told you many times before, you play too conservatively during footsies. >> You get whiff punished once and then you never press that button again. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:43 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> GG Sap. Please die and burn in hell with Rose. >>> >>> Seriously, its feels 7-3 to Rose. >>> >>> Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which is >>> impossible. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>> >>>> *lol* Dragonball Z: Hyper Dimension. Check out the matches :) >>>> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/user/PhoenixSA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> wavedashing? what game is this? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Wait until you see the wavedashing *lol* >>>>>> >>>>>> I didn't even know that was possible :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Ryan Williams >>>>>> <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> *lol* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Stephen Scheidel < >>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That Lumi combo is so legit ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 5 February 2014 18:06, Stephen Scheidel >>>>>>>> <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks dude ! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 5 February 2014 16:31, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> All the DBZ vids are up :) Hope you guys enjoy reliving the hype >>>>>>>>>> *lol* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Reading in the Barb thread and some guy has made a pure thorns >>>>>>>>>>> Barb. The point was to see if he could kill opponents without >>>>>>>>>>> pressing a >>>>>>>>>>> single button - combo of thorns + life regen. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> He tested the barb against Diablo in MP0. It took half an hour >>>>>>>>>>> for Diablo to die, but it worked. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: >>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong >>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:48 PM >>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Who needs GTA when you have Goat Simulator! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgTQglGvNUs >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://myanimelist.net/anime/10456/Kyoukaisenjou_no_Horizon >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Some guy on one of my forums recommended it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think I'm going to delete that Unbreakable Machine thing. The >>>>>>>>>>> complete lack of originality grates. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: >>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben >>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:39 PM >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Horizon does not ring a bell... >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:37:13 +0000 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, since games overtook movies as the biggest media profit >>>>>>>>>>> area, the situation was bound to change. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hey Paas, do you have Horizon lying around? I mean the anime >>>>>>>>>>> series. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] >>>>>>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben >>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:32 PM >>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When cost to produce games increased exponentially but game >>>>>>>>>>> prices stay essentially the same for over a decade... people start >>>>>>>>>>> getting >>>>>>>>>>> creative :P >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In short >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Money happened >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 15:23:13 +0200 >>>>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > What ever happened to just releasing a game? >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > On 05/02/2014, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > > Hahaha >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > On 05/02/2014, Donaldson, Alasdair < >>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >> I understand that it's not a full game. I'm sure USD30 is a >>>>>>>>>>> real bargain >>>>>>>>>>> > >> for >>>>>>>>>>> > >> a 5min speedrun game. >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Maybe if you pre-order it you get a free picture of Kojima >>>>>>>>>>> pulling the >>>>>>>>>>> > >> story >>>>>>>>>>> > >> out of his ass. >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>> ] >>>>>>>>>>> > >> On >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Behalf Of Wynand-Ben >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 3:10 PM >>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Well wasnt going to be a "big" demo from the start? >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Kinda like the ship segment from MGS2. Cant remember it >>>>>>>>>>> ever being >>>>>>>>>>> > >> advertised as a proper game. >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Thats how I understood it from the start... >>>>>>>>>>> > >> ________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> > >> From: >>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:04:32 +0000 >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Lol, 5min for a speedrun. No doubt 4 of those 5 minutes are >>>>>>>>>>> spend hiding. >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Two hours of game, with 5minutes of actual gameplay. Yup, >>>>>>>>>>> sounds like >>>>>>>>>>> > >> MGS... >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Hopefully they will have a heavy pseudo-intellectual >>>>>>>>>>> storyline to go >>>>>>>>>>> > >> along >>>>>>>>>>> > >> with it. >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> From: >>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] >>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 2:50 PM >>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Disappointment of the week >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/05/metal-gear-solid-v-ground-zeroes-is-only-2-hours-long-4291338/ >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Wow, someone released the Art of Fighting source code >>>>>>>>>>> (without assets, of >>>>>>>>>>> > >> course) >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> https://app.box.com/s/5on2e593tqt2c8ketc68 >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Watched it live. It will be on their YouTube channel in the >>>>>>>>>>> next day or >>>>>>>>>>> > >> so. >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9yHaajDKNc >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Sean Carrington >>>>>>>>>>> > >> < >>>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Link -_- >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Did anyone watch Infiltration vs Tokido? Highest level of >>>>>>>>>>> Akuma play >>>>>>>>>>> > >> I've >>>>>>>>>>> > >> seen. SFIV is relatively slow but it's so demanding on fast >>>>>>>>>>> reactions >>>>>>>>>>> > >> and >>>>>>>>>>> > >> situational awareness. In one situation Tokido did a combo >>>>>>>>>>> into reset >>>>>>>>>>> > >> and >>>>>>>>>>> > >> which he knew would trade if Infiltration did a DP. He did >>>>>>>>>>> this because >>>>>>>>>>> > >> he >>>>>>>>>>> > >> was calculating the stun values in his head. Infiltration >>>>>>>>>>> went for the >>>>>>>>>>> > >> DP, >>>>>>>>>>> > >> it traded and Tokido got the dizzy. So pro. >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair >>>>>>>>>>> > >> < >>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sounds like he was having a pretty horrible nightmare. >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> From: >>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> [ >>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%3cmailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%3e> >>>>>>>>>>> ] >>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 1:11 PM >>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Go back to sleep. >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Sean Carrington >>>>>>>>>>> > >> < >>>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Did someone say SFxT ? >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, G B >>>>>>>>>>> > >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Gamernet House, 45 Salisbury Road, Cape Town, ZA >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Jack Steel >>>>>>>>>>> > >> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Let me know were as it is my 1st time >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel < >>>>>>>>>>> orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>> Reason y i have xbox and ps3 was 4 kof 13 but i did not >>>>>>>>>>> get copy i had >>>>>>>>>>> > >>> sfxt found 1 sa player further no1.that's y i was gears of >>>>>>>>>>> war player >>>>>>>>>>> > >>> now im stuck on ggpo 4 competition toying around. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel < >>>>>>>>>>> orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Im gonna start of slow c im new 2 group im sa and >>>>>>>>>>> friendly .i had a >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> copy of kof 12 but i need a copy of kof 13 i got xbox and >>>>>>>>>>> ps3 and will >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> soon upgrade graphic card 4 pc. To cover most platforms c >>>>>>>>>>> what games r >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> famous 2 play.train.and thn c it sound interesting.ill >>>>>>>>>>> try 2 come 2 >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> belville 2 get use 2 the flow. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> On 2/5/14, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> I remember playing you on GGPO. My user name is ilitirit >>>>>>>>>>> but I don't >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> play >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> on there any more cos my GGPO doesn't work. We play on >>>>>>>>>>> SupArc now. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> It's >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> like GGPO but you can play against 3 people in a lobby >>>>>>>>>>> if you want to. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Are you going to come to the Saturday sessions in >>>>>>>>>>> Bellville? >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i smashed >>>>>>>>>>> many ggpo kof >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> 2002 >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> players avk team sa and other locals they tried all >>>>>>>>>>> cheats 2 no >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> profit >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other >>>>>>>>>>> platforms.smash or b >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> smashed"d.^_^;) >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > I wonder if they would have done the same if it was >>>>>>>>>>> me? >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > Or would they be all like... call the hospital, this >>>>>>>>>>> man is about >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > to >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> have a >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > heart-attack. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean Carrington >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > < >>>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I think I'm troubled. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the GM of >>>>>>>>>>> Telkom >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> Claremont. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security... >>>>>>>>>>> *facepalm*. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B" >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are priced >>>>>>>>>>> subjectively... >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> See >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic overreaction >>>>>>>>>>> hypothesis, or >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> google >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so' >>>>>>>>>>> applicable example. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me the >>>>>>>>>>> title of the >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> article >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used >>>>>>>>>>> within the Hedge >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Fund >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as can >>>>>>>>>>> be seen in the >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> quant >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've made >>>>>>>>>>> R1 turn into >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> R500, >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> if >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> you were at the right place at the right time). >>>>>>>>>>> Testing for >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> adaption >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> here >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you years of >>>>>>>>>>> work. HFs is >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> also >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of finance. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue. :-) I >>>>>>>>>>> corrected >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> this >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> when >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental analysis, >>>>>>>>>>> they'd >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> implement >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> like, >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which maybe 4 >>>>>>>>>>> or 5 have any >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> statical >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers went to >>>>>>>>>>> the extent of >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> running >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit" first... >>>>>>>>>>> which is akin >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are finding the >>>>>>>>>>> best >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> variables >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> that >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> fit >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the algorithm. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained >>>>>>>>>>> using a data-base >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> first, >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects the >>>>>>>>>>> variables and >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> ANN >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having the >>>>>>>>>>> computer decide >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> what >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I think >>>>>>>>>>> so. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to get >>>>>>>>>>> garbage out, >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> that >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> how it works with these black box machines, so >>>>>>>>>>> yeah, people have >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> used >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> GA's >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you >>>>>>>>>>> program it and I >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> would >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> totally different, which means it would learn >>>>>>>>>>> differently, just >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> as >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> we >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> do. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when there >>>>>>>>>>> are economic >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> shocks, >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock prices >>>>>>>>>>> will adjust >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> accordingly >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than usual, >>>>>>>>>>> they won't >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> necessarily >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> be >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I >>>>>>>>>>> can't always wait >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> some >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make money. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> As you've said, I don't want to match the market >>>>>>>>>>> at all, else >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I'd >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> go >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that the >>>>>>>>>>> market values >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> at >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more often than >>>>>>>>>>> not.If I had >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> basic >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on >>>>>>>>>>> whether a stock >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> falls >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it to earn >>>>>>>>>>> money, I'd be >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> billionaire by now. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> >>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> @GB >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against the >>>>>>>>>>> stock market. It >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> seems >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most of >>>>>>>>>>> these funds are >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use of GAs >>>>>>>>>>> though). Was >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> paper >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone? It answers a lot of >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> questions >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> had. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> It >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way before >>>>>>>>>>> the data is >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> run >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> live >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> data. Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer from >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> "over-fitting", >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> something I also mentioned. They try to adjust to >>>>>>>>>>> past >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> performance >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> order to generate an expected result. However, >>>>>>>>>>> most GAs don't >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> take >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> into >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result, so >>>>>>>>>>> they fail >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> miserably >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data. The best >>>>>>>>>>> they can do is >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> try >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very bad. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> >>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription. The link >>>>>>>>>>> should be at >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages. Give me >>>>>>>>>>> his email >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> address. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey kiviets >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> lol, >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i >>>>>>>>>>> added Hilton >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> myself >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200 >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: >>>>>>>>>>> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> To: >>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their >>>>>>>>>>> cellphones where I can >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> see >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> em, >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start uploading >>>>>>>>>>> soon :) >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf Barendse >>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is... >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. 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