Well, I agree with you to a point, but I guess I am even further down the road. I have my slate and stylus, but I really think an off-the-shelf PDA and laptop with adaptive technologies on then which both can use the same wireless Braille display with Braille keyboard is the best of all. If the laptop or the PDA has a problem you won't be waiting a month to get them fixed or replaced like you will if the notetaker goes down, and if the Braille display has a problem you still have speech access with both the PDA and the laptop. Even with these tools I stil recommend the Book Port as the most portable way of accessing the widest amount of file types that a college student may need to access at the best price with the least amount of hastle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Ring" <ring.richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:20 PM Subject: [bookport] Re: Has anyone heard of this device? I am not advocating going back to slates, I use technology, I have a note taker and a lap top, I simply know that when it comes to important data, things happen. Were it not so, I would not back up my work as often as I do. I am a techno freak as a matter of fact, and I would never want to live in a world without it. I think what the deal is, I wish I were a student now, because doing such things as correcting documents and doing research are quite a bit easier now. -----Original Message----- From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeanette Beal Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:10 PM To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bookport] Re: Has anyone heard of this device? That's a little ageist if you ask me. Granted, many post-1980s people have been taught to rely on technology than the old slate n stylus, that's not to say non-techie skills haven't been taught as well. Not to mention the complete disregard for reality in a statement such that puts invincibility and security with technology in the same sentence. We all know technology is going to and does fail on a regular basis, and we all make adjustments. Voluntary braille courses are being sought out against the wishes of IEPs and the like. I just acquired a slate and stylus for the first time two years ago and I love it. But there are ways to be more efficient. Not that I'm trying to appear uppity in any way. I understand and value where technology has come from and is going and I understand and value the tride and true methods of madness we all hold near and dear. But that's not to denegrate another's way of accomodating life to life. I love my talking alarm clock, but my braille watch is more reliable. Love my laptop, but I know how to print on the sly too. It's all in which method your madness feels safest with, eh? - Jeanette ps. - the irony in all of this is that most blind techno stuff isn't available. It's not on the open market and inaccessible based on a variety of factors including socio-economics and geography. It would be great if we could have this discussion in a day and age when *everyone* really was trying to choose between a laptop and a pacmate, but the reality is most blind folk don't have equal access to a computer unless they live in a heavily-advocated-for state. On 8/25/06, Richard Ring <ring.richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Well, I am someone who graduated high school around then, and yes, they're lucky. However, they are also going to be dependent on technology that can and will fail, and when it does they will not have a clue what to do. Because, they don't know what a slate is, and they don't believe their technology can fail. -----Original Message----- From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of Joni Colver Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 2:57 PM To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bookport] Re: Has anyone heard of this device? As someone who graduated high school in 1974 with nothing more technologically advanced than a manual typewriter and sometimes taped textbooks, I sure due envy the plethora of techie devices current students have access to. I would give anything to be debating whether I needed a laptop or a Pacmate. Slate and stylus anyone? Tried to resist posting this but just had to say how lucky you students are nowadays and I am happy for you. Joni