[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
- From: Thomas McMahan <shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx>
- To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:23:12 -0600
Only if the cop had his gun suspended in mid air over his head. That takes
some good telekinesis to do that plus all the normal stuff a cop would do. I’m
sure a few of those protesting maybe think cops are members of an occult group,
but they think a lot of things without any proof.
So yes, his hands weren’t up if he was trying for the cop’s gun. But they want
two sets of rules.
> On Dec 15, 2014, at 10:48 AM, Ray T. Mahorney <mahorney.r.t@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> but he did not put his hands up and that myth is being perpetuated
>
>
> Ray T. Mahorney
> WA4WGA
>
> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Josh
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> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>
> I agree, I like what the protestors have to say and if they had started
> protesting prior to Michael Brown’s death he may have still been a live
> today. There theme of their whole protest around here are “Hands Up, Don’t
> Shoot”. If Michael Brown had put his hands up then Ferguson wouldn’t be going
> through everything they are going through right now. There is an old saying
> around here that goes something like this “If you mess with the bull, you are
> going to get his horns”.
>
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> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Stacey
> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 11:35 PM
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> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>
> Personally, I think that Michael Brown was in the wrong. The police officer
> was defending himself. Why can't some people get that through their heads? Is
> fighting and protesting really gonna solve anything?
> On 12/13/2014 10:10 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote:
>> I remember when Lou Henson left Illinois or retired out some of them were
>> hoping that the Illini would hire Bruce Pearl on, well they didn’t glad they
>> didn’t. They were already in trouble, he would have probably gotten them in
>> more trouble.
>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh yeah the NCAA has to be who you know. Take a look at Lane Kieffan, he
>>> leaves and who suffers. I belive the same was true with Bruce Pearl and the
>>> basketball program. Even after Bruce was penalized from coaching, I think
>>> UT suffered penalties. Of course there are going to be some reprocussions
>>> on the program just because the coach is connected, but in a way I think
>>> our teams suffered more than the coaches. Probably just a biased opinion,
>>> but ya know.
>>> Penn State incident is a pathetic joke. There is no way
>>> that it could have went on that long and the situations continued without
>>> someone speaking up about it.
>>> The whole concept of innocent until proven guilty does not
>>> apply anymore. The concept is now guilty until you prove yourself innocent.
>>> Even if the Criminal Justice System sees you as innocent until proven
>>> guilty, the rest of the public are ready to hang you before they even hear
>>> the evidence. A clear example of this occurred the other day in class.
>>> After the Grand Jury came back with a not guilty verdict in Ferguson my
>>> professor asked the classs what they thought about the incident. The
>>> responses were well they knew if they found him not guilty they were going
>>> to have a riot, they should have just found him guilty to keep the rioting
>>> from occurring, he was wrong for shooting Michael Brown, etc. However, not
>>> one person made a comment regarding the evidence in the case. If you do not
>>> follow the directions of the police expect to be met with reprocussions. If
>>> you try to get the officers gun expect to get shot because I can guarantee
>>> that if all these sideline judges were put in this same situation they
>>> would want to go home to their family as well and not sit idly by and let
>>> some random citizen adolescent or adult take their gun to shoot them with
>>> it. It is insane the autopsy was done, and then if I am not mistaken Obuma
>>> was not satisfied with the results so he ordered another autopsy, and I
>>> think there were a few more autopsies done before they moved forward. How
>>> can you convict a person that was engaging in self defense?
>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
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>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>
>>> Unfortunately it sounds like in some of
>>>> On the sports media down there they are already convicted. Sounds like a
>>>> convoluted case to me, but I’m sure a lot of them are anyway.
>>>
>>> Then the NCAA will probably want to threaten UT and the whole 9 yards, yet
>>> Pen State gets off pretty easy. There’s still a lot of idiots around there
>>> that think that school is blameless and inocent with what went on there.
>>> Maybe UT should have set up in a much more isolated spot like Pen State
>>> did. Of course I’m being a smart ass about that, but that is partially how
>>> Pen State has gotten away with a lot more for much longer. A definite
>>> little theefdom there. Meanwhile schools like OSU get nailed for a lot
>>> less and get threatened with the chop. Makes Illinois’s recruiting
>>> violation back in the early 90s look like chump change too, yet they were
>>> threatened with full shut down of all sports activity. I guess it’s who
>>> you know in the NCAA. Which seems to me to be as clean as the driven
>>> slush. I guess in the whole UT situation it was the school that stepped in
>>> and sat them down, but don’t know all of the details of the whole deal.
>>> Guess we’ll hear something though if they decide to pursue a case on them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dec 13, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Very true. Right now UT is in the hot seat regarding rape allegations
>>> against two of the football players. I just read today that one of the
>>> girl’s boyfriends is on the football team as well. I read on that the
>>> boyfriend caught her, and the girl is on the rowing team. So, there are
>>> more elements to the story, but KPD announced last night that there
>>> investigation was complete and being sent to the D.A.’s office to see if
>>> charges will be pursued. It is a tragic situation either way because if
>>> they are guilty then they have not only ruined their careers, but also
>>> ruined the victims lives. If they are not guilty, then I would say there
>>> will not be a decision until after the bowl game which will prevent them
>>> from playing in the game. Not too mention that if they are found not guilty
>>> there will still be people holding it against them. So, either way it is a
>>> major black mark on these players.
>>>
>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:58 PM
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>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>
>>> But a QB who knows how to tuck and run is often not noticed until he’s
>>> gotten 10 yards down the field if he can pull off the fake. If they then
>>> concentrate to much attention looking for him to run then he then is able
>>> to either use a running back or tail back or pass. Thats why option
>>> offense is harder to defend. You have to have a QB that can take some
>>> punishment though, no frail guys as QB, or guys who can’t work outside of a
>>> pocket of protection. For those it’s a disaster for them to try to run the
>>> ball themselves. Does though is in pretty good shape physically. He’s
>>> taken sacks pretty well already this year too. There have been a few
>>> reckless plays, but learning from them will cure those. But that whole
>>> offense well really the whole team is having to learn because there’s so
>>> many freshman on that team this year. They are already coming together as
>>> a unit pretty good, could be quite interesting even in a couple of years,
>>> let alone 3 years from now.
>>>
>>>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 8:44 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would say the QB also then becomes a target for the rest of the teams to
>>>> take out. So, he needs to be careful or he will be a true red shirt.
>>>>
>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 3:50 PM
>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>
>>>> He did play in the Bamma game, but he wasn’t the starter I don’t think. I
>>>> think they would have at least taken Florida though, and maybe Georgia,
>>>> and that would have changed things a lot for U T. Dobs fits in to the
>>>> type of offense that Butch Jones likes to run which of course is an option
>>>> heavy offense. No problem with that, because your QB becomes a direct
>>>> offensive weapon at that point. It is either going to work or not. There
>>>> isn’t a middle ground, usually it works though.
>>>>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It does sound like interesting things are happening. I have a feeling
>>>>> that if Josh Dobbs was in at the first of the year the florida game and
>>>>> the Georgia game would have looked much different. I cannot remember if
>>>>> Dobbs played during the Alabama game or not, but I know all their games
>>>>> were close calls this past season.
>>>>>
>>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:43 AM
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>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>>
>>>>> Even more surprising is that Illinois managed to get in also. Won just
>>>>> enough games in Big 10 this year. It’s been a long time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting baseball trades going on today too. Sox are definitely
>>>>> getting aggressive about trading. Picked up a closer something that they
>>>>> didn’t have last year because the guy they wanted to be closer was hurt
>>>>> early. Then they turn around and pick up Semarja to beef up their
>>>>> starting rotation. Cubs have already been dealing, they don’t have many
>>>>> secrets as to who they are wanting, although the Lester deal hasn’t
>>>>> happened yet. But if they pick him up that will anchor their starting
>>>>> rotation quite a bit too.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for TN, I still say thats a team to be watching out for. The SEC east
>>>>> isn’t a super strong devision, it can be taken and not have to get around
>>>>> a team like Alabama.Depends on recruiting but they’ve already improved
>>>>> over last year’s team despite injuries etc. They don’t give up, unlike
>>>>> the Chicago Bears who seeo just curl up in a ball.
>>>>>
>>>>> Illini basketball is looking pretty interesting this year too and they’ve
>>>>> already landed a major recruit to start next year. Lots of things on the
>>>>> sports plate, something that is needed since Da Bears are so bad this
>>>>> year.
>>>>>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, we managed to get into a bowl game this year. Butch just got a pay
>>>>>> raise and a contract extension.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:59 AM
>>>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, keep an eye on those Vols, they are going to be heard in the next
>>>>>> year tr two seriously the way things are going. They’ve had a lot of
>>>>>> injuries, but still manage to keep on going to some degree.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes the style of offense they play actually fits Dobs better than the
>>>>>> guy they had start the year, Dobs himself becomes a weapon because he
>>>>>> can take more punishment running the ball himself. Even in the Bama
>>>>>> game they did’t give up even though Bama got a two score lead within the
>>>>>> first couple of minutes of the game.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes this whole internet thing is a great invention, have listened to
>>>>>> more Tennessee games this year than Illinois games, although I did hear
>>>>>> the Illini Gofers game and like everybody else was surprised they
>>>>>> actually pulled that one off. I bet the Gofers were surprised the most
>>>>>> coming in with only 1 Big 10 loss at the time. Think they looked over
>>>>>> the Illini and got burned on that one. Well it serves them right they
>>>>>> derailed the Illini a number of times in the past.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can’t comment on NFL, but I am proud of what I have seen out of the
>>>>>>> Vols this year. It hasn’t been a stellar season, but the games we have
>>>>>>> played haven’t been blow outs either. In fact I heard yesterday I guess
>>>>>>> it was one more win for the Vols and we will be going to a bowl game. I
>>>>>>> wish they had of put Josh Dobbs in earlier in the season rather than
>>>>>>> redshirting him as it may have caused more upsets especially with
>>>>>>> Muschimp and those Gators. Sorry for the hi-jack, but I am known for
>>>>>>> hijacking post. Right? *LOL*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 5:39 PM
>>>>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Bears have done a lot of that loosing this year especially to teams
>>>>>>> that logically would be worse than them. Up until yesterday even
>>>>>>> playing at home wasn’t helping them out. But the NFL this year is
>>>>>>> completely goofy anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 17, 2014, at 10:25 AM, BethAnn LaPresta (Redacted sender
>>>>>>>> "bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx>" for DMARC)
>>>>>>>> <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone. Nothing exciting on this end, just working and trying to
>>>>>>>> do some projects around the house for the appraisal...trying to
>>>>>>>> refinance and get some cash out of the house to pay for it all. LOL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My oldest turned 29 on Friday and apparently ate the entire jello cake
>>>>>>>> yesterday (with the exception of 3 pieces I made him share with his
>>>>>>>> friends/brother). The Seattle Seahawks lost, so I left right after
>>>>>>>> that to avoid the inevitable "crabby" that would be expressed about
>>>>>>>> the loss.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving!
>>>>>>>> BethAnn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: Heather H <copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> <mailto:copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>> To: "audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>"
>>>>>>>> <audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:35 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello, Josh and Tom. Everything is okay here in snowy Ohio. The snow
>>>>>>>> is coming down here and I am looking forward to going out and playing
>>>>>>>> in it with Selah. well, she will play...I wouldn't do anything so
>>>>>>>> childish as that...lol
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope everyone who celebraates it, has a wonderful and blessed
>>>>>>>> Thanksgiving. No turkey here of course...can't trust it. chicken and
>>>>>>>> dumplings here for us. The store killed chicken little for this dish
>>>>>>>> not me!!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hugs to you Bethie!!!!! Happy birthday to my oldest nephew who just
>>>>>>>> turned 29. OMG, I'm old. Who let them grow up?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 11:56 PM, Thomas McMahan
>>>>>>>> <shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx <mailto:shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope you’re still in the list and so should everybody else bee, it’s
>>>>>>>> just been dead quiet lately.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Heather probably has the bus running again and she and George and Pete
>>>>>>>> and who knows who else are probably driving around and stopping at
>>>>>>>> Wal-marts in Canada again trying to get Liz’s attention. But I’m not
>>>>>>>> sure they are going to get Liz’s attention *lol*.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Got an e-mail from Suzi off list so know she’s alive too. BethAnn
>>>>>>>> might be doing another batch of sessions of closet rap for her next
>>>>>>>> album release or something, or she’s waiting to sell you a house Josh.
>>>>>>>> It might be “the perfect place.” Or maybe not depends on who’s
>>>>>>>> standard of perfection is being used perhaps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don’t know about Don. Danny though is alive and well, eating lots and
>>>>>>>> lots of cream corn, well probably every meal he eats is cream corn,
>>>>>>>> because he doesn’t like it so he has been placed into the cream corn
>>>>>>>> factor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Patti continues to improve bit by bit, gets a little more talkative
>>>>>>>> over time at times. She has a couple of appointments coming in
>>>>>>>> December, one is physical, the other is the Neurologist. But I’m
>>>>>>>> thinking generally things will be going in the right direction for her
>>>>>>>> as afar as they are concerned.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>> How is everyone doing? I have not seen any post from the list in a
>>>>>>>>> few weeks now. I am wondering if I have not gotten myself booted
>>>>>>>>> somehow unintentionally. I guess the last I seen any post was Tom and
>>>>>>>>> I interacting about the family issues. The issues are not a hundred
>>>>>>>>> percent, but I do feel that since Amanda stood up and stood her
>>>>>>>>> ground we have gotten more respect. Now, it seems as though we are
>>>>>>>>> actualy people and not servants. However, that could change at any
>>>>>>>>> moment. Well, we have our prequalification letter and have found a
>>>>>>>>> few houses that we are interested in. We have to call tomorrow and
>>>>>>>>> get a real estate agent. Getting the prequal was a bit ofa hassle
>>>>>>>>> though. Today Amanda and I went and bought little man some birthday
>>>>>>>>> presents and got his location reserved. Sometime this week we have to
>>>>>>>>> get the invitations filled-out. Amanda and I are in the home stretch
>>>>>>>>> of the semester and everything seems to be going alright. I am in one
>>>>>>>>> class where I will not know if I passed or failed until the final
>>>>>>>>> grade comes out since 50% of the points aren’t going to be figured
>>>>>>>>> until the end of the semester. Amanda as far as I know is doing fine
>>>>>>>>> in her classes, she has some projects that she is working on, but I
>>>>>>>>> belive they are going fine. So, as always we have a ton of things
>>>>>>>>> going on, but little time *LOL*. Have a good one and I hope to be
>>>>>>>>> able to read some list traffic here in a few days. Take care and chat
>>>>>>>>> later.
>>
>>
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