[THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers

  • From: Jeff Pitsch <jepitsch@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 08:43:47 -0500

that's a huge assumption that the bottleneck is the pagefile/disk.
Obvoiusly each environment is different but pagefile/disk isn't usually the
bottleneck.

On 1/25/06, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> See http://www.tigicorp.com/citrix_solutions.htm
>
> I haven't tried these nor am I affiliated with the company, but I'd be
> interested in knowing if anyone has. Basically it's a solid-state-disk and
> the claim for TSE boxes is you put your pagefile on it and instantly crank
> up your scalability. Keeping in ind how tscale works, the concept seems
> reasonable.
>
>
>  On 1/26/06, Berny Stapleton <berny.stapleton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, RAID 0 is a LOT better performance. I guess it just comes down to
> > the question of whether you need it or not.
> >
> > In my scenarios previously disk access hasn't been the bottleneck, we
> > have had to run gig to the servers before as network has been a bottleneck
> > on applications that are dependent on SQL. I have also seen the 4 Gig memory
> > limit being a bottleneck on how many users we can get on the servers.
> >
> > Yes, RAID 0 can give you a lot better performance, but at the same time,
> > I haven't come across the issue yet where local disk has been the
> > performance bottleneck of getting more users per server.
> >
> > Berny
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> > Behalf Of *Rusty Yates
> > *Sent:* 25 January 2006 14:24
> > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers
> >
> >
> >  This brings up another question.  Does RAID 0 so better performance
> > than just a stand alone HD configuration?
> >
> > Rusty
> >
> >
> > On 1/24/06, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:
> > >
> > > The IBM HS20 and HP BL35p (SAS) seems to be lacking in the Raid
> > > Controller cache arena as well... Enough so, that one customer is
> > > considering abandoning RAID 1 in favor of a RAID 0 configuration...  
> > > Initial
> > > benchmarks are showing a HUGE improvement in Read, Writes, and overall
> > > performance.  But of course, you loose that redundancy.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > > On 1/24/06, Rusty Yates <rusty27@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just heard back from our outside sales from Dell and was told that
> > > > one customer did a major test with Citrix and the Dell 1855 Blades and 
> > > > found
> > > > that Citrix ran 30% slower due to no enough cache on the Raid 
> > > > Controller in
> > > > their blades.  Anyway the outside sales guy is recommending us to go 
> > > > with
> > > > the 1850 1u servers instead which basically defects the purpose of 
> > > > going to
> > > > blades (ex: density, wiring, power, etc......).    Never thought I would
> > > > actually hear a sales rep recommend against their own product.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, just thought I would pass this along.
> > > >
> > > > Rusty
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  On 1/24/06, Rusty Yates <rusty27@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I appreciate all the information from everyone.  From all the
> > > > > research that we've done we are hoping to go with IBM Servers and 
> > > > > Blades but
> > > > > if the pricing isn't close we will most likely choose Dell.  We 
> > > > > understand
> > > > > IBM is going to have better management, denisty, etc and if money 
> > > > > wasn't a
> > > > > factor IBM would be our #1 choice.  But on the flip side with Dell, 
> > > > > we are a
> > > > > Dell shop, the Dell pricing is better, and Dell's support has been 
> > > > > great.
> > > > >
> > > > > I will say I'm very disappointed that no one brought up Hitachi's
> > > > > Blade Servers or even Silicon Blade Servers.   :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again for all the information and laughs!
> > > > >
> > > > > Rusty
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  On 1/21/06, Rusty Yates <rusty27@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like to know if anyone on this board has had any good or
> > > > > > bad experience with the Dell PowerEdge 1855 Blade Servers.  We are 
> > > > > > currently
> > > > > > taking a hard look at using the Dell Blades for our Citrix Servers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rusty
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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