[THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers

Although in fairness, isn't that criticism about workstations?

either way, Let's all agree to disagree and gather around for a group
hug......

Jeff


On 1/24/06, Jeff Pitsch <jepitsch@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Thanks Jim!!!
>
> Jeff
>
>
>  On 1/24/06, Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com <http://thinhelp.com/> <
> jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Darn freelists put in a %2  use this one...
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell 
> > Inc.#Criticism<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell+Inc.#Criticism>
> >
> > *"Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com <http://thinhelp.com/>">* wrote:
> >
> > You don't need to Jeff, just direct him to the Wikipedia entry on
> > Dell and read about them... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell%2C_Inc.
> > Look under the criticism heading... interesting to note that the entry for
> > IBM and HP have no such heading. : )
> > JK
> >
> >
> > *Jeff Pitsch <je>* wrote:
> >
> > Have you read any of my statements?  i have said they are my opinion.
> > I'm sorry if I haven't taken the time to list out my complaints (like
> > OpenManage which was stated) and those of my clients (like hard drives that
> > can't be replaced anymore because of some bizarre firmware issues).  So
> > please before you start throwing mud, please read my posts in their entirety
> > again.  yes I will bring up the fact of lights out and being in front means
> > more than just a processor, it also deals with management software (again),
> > hardware in all it's forms, blades, racks, etc, support for all of it.  That
> > is what I have to deal with with my customers, I have to look at
> > everything.
> >
> > Besides, this entire thread is about peoples opinions and experiences,
> > right or wrong.
> >
> > If you really want, I'll get one of my customers to list out why they
> > threw dell out on to the curve.  It will take a couple of days but I'll get
> > the list.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> > On 1/23/06, Roger Riggins <roger.riggins@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote:
> > >
> > >  Jeff, you said "…everything about Dell servers pales in comparison to
> > > HP and IBM". I simply want to know why. If you can't expound on your
> > > statements then we'll take them for what they're worth and move on. If 
> > > it's
> > > merely an opinion, then say so and don't present it as fact. Rusty's
> > > original post was about Dell 1885 blades. You didn't even answer his
> > > question, but immediately slammed Dell and its entire server line. It's
> > > obvious that YOU are the one that has strong feelings about Dell. Maybe
> > > Rusty isn't interested in lights out or being the first on the block to 
> > > run
> > > AMD procs in his NOC. Does that mean that mean that he s till shouldn't 
> > > look
> > > at Dell?
> > >
> > > Look, you are an enormous asset to this list and your opinion probably
> > > carries much weight fo r many readers. That may be even more reason for 
> > > you
> > > to be sure to distinguish between fact and opinion.
> > >
> > > As for this thread being about me: We are mixed Dell/HP. Our last
> > > server purchase was HP servers. I have no loyalty either way and I was 
> > > never
> > > offended. All I'm doing is calling a spade a spade.
> > >  Roger Riggins
> > > Network Administrator
> > > Lutheran Services in Iowa
> > > w: 319.859.3543
> > > c: 319.290.5687
> > > http://www.lsiowa.org
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> > > Behalf Of *Jeff Pitsch
> > > *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2006 7:07 PM
> > > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers
> > >
> > >  Yes it doe s because Dell will ALWAYS be behind the other two.  How
> > > long have they had to develop a Management product for their servers and 
> > > it
> > > still stinks?  Come one, 7, 8 years or more?  they can't do better than 
> > > open
> > > manage?  Still requiring VNC to be installed to remote the server?  hardly
> > > a  lights out solution.
> > >
> > >  I don't know how anyone has offended you but you obviously feel very
> > > strongly in Dell.  Great have fun with them but don't take this thread 
> > > like
> > > it's a personal discussion about you.
> > >
> > >  Jeff Pitsch
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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