[THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers
- From: "Nick Smith" <nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:49:49 -0000
Jim,
Little in that entry is relevant to our discussion here; it comes down
to;
a) Don't do Opterons
b) Some hard drives used to fail
c) There are sometimes ordering errors, which Dell mainly resolves
Plus some other stuff which consists of basically "Is a commercial
computer supplier" and applies equally to Dell, HP, IBM, Gateway, Apple,
and pretty much everyone else, such as
- Uses proprietary parts
- Uses non-proprietary parts
- Sticks to it's warranties
- Ships recovery CDs
- Suffers from lawsuits
Nick
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From: Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com [mailto:jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 24 January 2006 15:06
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers
Darn freelists put in a %2 use this one...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell Inc.#Criticism
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell%20Inc.#Criticism>
"Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com";> wrote:
You don't need to Jeff, just direct him to the Wikipedia entry
on Dell and read about them... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell%2C_Inc.
Look under the criticism heading... interesting to note that the entry
for IBM and HP have no such heading. : )
JK
Jeff Pitsch <je> wrote:
Have you read any of my statements? i have said they
are my opinion. I'm sorry if I haven't taken the time to list out my
complaints (like OpenManage which was stated) and those of my clients
(like hard drives that can't be replaced anymore because of some bizarre
firmware issues). So please before you start throwing mud, please read
my posts in their entirety again. yes I will bring up the fact of
lights out and being in front means more than just a processor, it also
deals with management software (again), hardware in all it's forms,
blades, racks, etc, support for all of it. That is what I have to deal
with with my customers, I have to look at everything.
Besides, this entire thread is about peoples opinions
and experiences, right or wrong.
If you really want, I'll get one of my customers to list
out why they threw dell out on to the curve. It will take a couple of
days but I'll get the list.
Jeff
On 1/23/06, Roger Riggins <roger.riggins@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Jeff, you said "...everything about Dell servers pales
in comparison to HP and IBM". I simply want to know why. If you can't
expound on your statements then we'll take them for what they're worth
and move on. If it's merely an opinion, then say so and don't present it
as fact. Rusty's original post was about Dell 1885 blades. You didn't
even answer his question, but immediately slammed Dell and its entire
server line. It's obvious that YOU are the one that has strong feelings
about Dell. Maybe Rusty isn't interested in lights out or being the
first on the block to run AMD procs in his NOC. Does that mean that mean
that he s till shouldn't look at Dell?
Look, you are an enormous asset to this list and your
opinion probably carries much weight fo r many readers. That may be even
more reason for you to be sure to distinguish between fact and opinion.
As for this thread being about me: We are mixed Dell/HP.
Our last server purchase was HP servers. I have no loyalty either way
and I was never offended. All I'm doing is calling a spade a spade.
Roger Riggins
Network Administrator
Lutheran Services in Iowa
w: 319.859.3543
c: 319.290.5687
http://www.lsiowa.org <http://www.lsiowa.org/>
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Pitsch
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 7:07 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers
Yes it doe s because Dell will ALWAYS be behind the
other two. How long have they had to develop a Management product for
their servers and it still stinks? Come one, 7, 8 years or more? they
can't do better than open manage? Still requiring VNC to be installed
to remote the server? hardly a lights out solution.
I don't know how anyone has offended you but you
obviously feel very strongly in Dell. Great have fun with them but
don't take this thread like it's a personal discussion about you.
Jeff Pitsch
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