[THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers

  • From: "Roger Riggins" <roger.riggins@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:26:39 -0600

I still don't get it. If there is no comparison in hardware, then you
should be able to rattle off some differences that make it so.

Roger Riggins   
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Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 11:18 AM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers

 

You are reading between the lines.  I was mearly stating to Roger that
both IBM and HP hardware have a bigger stake in the server business and
are more committed to it then Dell ever was or ever will be. I am sure
that dell equipment runs just fine and serves your purpose but there
really is no comparison.  Dell still needs to grow up and decide what
kind of company it is going to be. IBM and HP are already there. 

JK



Evan Mann <emann@com> wrote:

        I've got a couple 7 year old Dell PE servers still running today
that have had zero problems.  One of them is a data base server with
heavy I/O and CPU use (it's now relegated to a testing machine, too slow
obviously).  So my experiences tells me that Dell can keep up just fine
with the competitors in terms of quality of equipment, uptimes, etc.  My
support experiences have been top notch as well.  

         

        
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        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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        Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 10:07 AM
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        Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers

        We have used HP/Compaq/Digital/Dec or whatever you want to call
them servers in our computer center for over 10 years. In all the time
we have had them the only thing that has ever failed on any of them (and
it was a Digital Proliant) was one of the re dundant power supplies and
some hard disks over the years. They are exceptional quality equipment.
The only way a server is ever going to catch fire is if the fan isn't
working or it is not properly ventilated. Dell is just fine for
workstations but they need to stay out of the server business. I've used
IBM eServers to host my websites at my home for 8 years now...the thing
has been running nonstop..no problems ever. 

         

        I don't believe that dell is as committed to the server business
as IBM and HP/Compaq/Digital are and have been over the last two
decades.  Dell simply just can't compare to the other two...they haven't
earned the respect to even compete with them when it comes t o servers.
You're kidding yourself if you think any differently.

         

        Jim

         

        
        Matt Kosht <matt.kosht@ wrote:

                I just got an 1855 and am starting to install PS 4.0 on
it now. I
                have had very good luck with Dell servers in general (we
have about 50
                in service) despite some comments here to the contrary.
I have had a
                Compaq server catch on fire, had numerous Compaqs with
failed power
                supplies, had a hosting customer who had horrendeous
service problems
                with IBM servers (every motherboard in their Citrix farm
was replaced
                2x)
                We have one of the poorly designed (any Dell rep will
admit this)
                1655 blades which was the generation before the 1855
eluded to by
                others here. Despite some difficulties with KVM
compatibilty and
                installing an OS it has performed with no nee d for
service for 2
                years. They seem to have learned a lot with the 1855
(time will
                tell).
                
                Dell is tough to beat on price and in my experience I
have never seen
                a competitive advantage to buying a more expensive
HP/Compaq/IBM. 
                Service at the Gold level gets you Domestic support and
4 hr response
                (we get more like 2 hrs here) and it's still cheaper
than going IBM or
                HP.
                
                If you buy any kind of quantity from Dell they will let
you eval one
                (built to your spec) for nothing, for 60 days. I am sure
you could
                talk HP or IBM into it as well. Why not compare them
head to head?
                
                On 1/21/06, Rusty Yates wrote:
                > I would like to know if anyone on this board has had
any good or bad
                > experience with the Dell PowerEdge 1855 Blade Servers.
We are currently
                > taking a hard look at using the Dell Blades for our
Citrix Servers.
                >
                > Thanks in advance!
                >
                > Rusty

         

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