[THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers
- From: "Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com" <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:10:58 -0800 (PST)
Don't think I used the word Crap anywhere there Roger, did I. Chill out dude.
Further it was Matt who was slinging mud at IBM and HP, not me. Dell has not
had a server line for very long, they aren't commited to it and it isn't even
their core business. What more needs to be said? Bottom line is you get what
you pay for. They are a viable solution for desktops as I said but they will
never find their way anywhere near a server room I manage.
JK
Roger Riggins <roger.riggins> wrote:
All due respect... prove it! We?ve experienced the same
reliability that you describe, but with Dell. What do you have to back up your
statements? Simply because you haven?t had a lot of hardware failures doesn?t
mean that Dell is crap. Just because you have 8 year old web servers still in
production doesn?t mean Dell is crap.
Why do you feel that Dell hasn?t earned respect? Because they don?t spend 30
million dollars in R&D to find out that air flows better through a hexagonal
hole versus a round one? Well, I thank you for funding IBM?s R&D, and I thank
Dell for making use of that R&D so that I may get the same technology on your
dime.
All I?m saying is that slinging mud doesn?t help anybody understand why
IBM/HP would be better than Dell. We?re all engineers. Give us some real info.
Of course, all IMHO.
Roger Riggins
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Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers
We have used HP/Compaq/Digital/Dec or whatever you want to call them
servers in our computer center for over 10 years. In all the time we have had
them the only thing that has ever failed on any of them (and it was a Digital
Proliant) was one of the redundant power supplies and some hard disks over the
years. They are exceptional quality equipment. The only way a server is ever
going to catch fire is if the fan isn't working or it is not properly
ventilated. Dell is just fine for workstations but they need to stay out of the
server business. I've used IBM eServers to host my websites at my home for 8
years now...the thing has been running nonstop..no problems ever.
I don't believe that dell is as committed to the server business as IBM and
HP/Compaq/Digital are and have been over the last two decades. Dell simply
just can't compare to the other two...they haven't earned the respect to even
compete with them when it comes t o servers. You're kidding yourself if you
think any differently.
Jim
Matt Kosht <matt.kosht@ wrote:
I just got an 1855 and am starting to install PS 4.0 on it now. I
have had very good luck with Dell servers in general (we have about 50
in service) despite some comments here to the contrary. I have had a
Compaq server catch on fire, had numerous Compaqs with failed power
supplies, had a hosting customer who had horrendeous service problems
with IBM servers (every motherboard in their Citrix farm was replaced
2x)
We have one of the poorly designed (any Dell rep will admit this)
1655 blades which was the generation before the 1855 eluded to by
others here. Despite some difficulties with KVM compatibilty and
installing an OS it has performed with no nee d for service for 2
years. They seem to have learned a lot with the 1855 (time will
tell).
Dell is tough to beat on price and in my experience I have never seen
a competitive advantage to buying a more expensive HP/Compaq/IBM.
Service at the Gold level gets you Domestic support and 4 hr response
(we get more like 2 hrs here) and it's still cheaper than going IBM or
HP.
If you buy any kind of quantity from Dell they will let you eval one
(built to your spec) for nothing, for 60 days. I am sure you could
talk HP or IBM into it as well. Why not compare them head to head?
On 1/21/06, Rusty Yates wrote:
> I would like to know if anyone on this board has had any good or bad
> experience with the Dell PowerEdge 1855 Blade Servers. We are currently
> taking a hard look at using the Dell Blades for our Citrix Servers.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Rusty
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