[THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers

And in equal fairness.  Complaints about failed hardware were supplier
issues (HDDs from Maxtor, bad capacitors from god knows who).  Dell
handled the HDDs well, but the capacitors poorly.  No proactive
replacement on GX270 motherboards, but proactive replacement (with free
on-site imaging) was offered on the HDD failed systems.    

It's funny to see the word "monopoly" mentioned.  No one likes people
being like Microsoft in the comptuer world, and because of that, there
are more complaints, and more publicity from it, and that's what I see
has happened to Dell.
 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jeff Pitsch
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:49 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers


Although in fairness, isn't that criticism about workstations?
 
either way, Let's all agree to disagree and gather around for a group
hug......
 
Jeff

 
On 1/24/06, Jeff Pitsch <jepitsch@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

        Thanks Jim!!!
        
         
        Jeff 
        
         
        
        On 1/24/06, Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com
<http://thinhelp.com/>  < jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> >
wrote: 

                Darn freelists put in a %2  use this one...
                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell Inc.#Criticism
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell+Inc.#Criticism> 
                
                "Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com <http://thinhelp.com/>
"> wrote:

                        
                        You don't need to Jeff, just direct him to the
Wikipedia entry on Dell and read about them...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell%2C_Inc.  Look under the criticism
heading... interesting to note that the entry for IBM and HP have no
such heading. : )
                        JK


                        Jeff Pitsch <je> wrote:

                                
                                Have you read any of my statements?  i
have said they are my opinion.  I'm sorry if I haven't taken the time to
list out my complaints (like OpenManage which was stated) and those of
my clients (like hard drives that can't be replaced anymore because of
some bizarre firmware issues).  So please before you start throwing mud,
please read my posts in their entirety again.  yes I will bring up the
fact of lights out and being in front means more than just a processor,
it also deals with management software (again), hardware in all it's
forms, blades, racks, etc, support for all of it.  That is what I have
to deal with with my customers, I have to look at everything.  
                                 
                                Besides, this entire thread is about
peoples opinions and experiences, right or wrong.  
                                 
                                If you really want, I'll get one of my
customers to list out why they threw dell out on to the curve.  It will
take a couple of days but I'll get the list.
                                 
                                Jeff
                                
                                 
                                On 1/23/06, Roger Riggins
<roger.riggins@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote: 

                                Jeff, you said "...everything about Dell
servers pales in comparison to HP and IBM". I simply want to know why.
If you can't expound on your statements then we'll take them for what
they're worth and move on. If it's merely an opinion, then say so and
don't present it as fact. Rusty's original post was about Dell 1885
blades. You didn't even answer his question, but immediately slammed
Dell and its entire server line. It's obvious that YOU are the one that
has strong feelings about Dell. Maybe Rusty isn't interested in lights
out or being the first on the block to run AMD procs in his NOC. Does
that mean that mean that he s till shouldn't look at Dell? 
                                
                                 
                                Look, you are an enormous asset to this
list and your opinion probably carries much weight fo r many readers.
That may be even more reason for you to be sure to distinguish between
fact and opinion. 
                                 
                                As for this thread being about me: We
are mixed Dell/HP. Our last server purchase was HP servers. I have no
loyalty either way and I was never offended. All I'm doing is calling a
spade a spade. 
                                
                                Roger Riggins   
                                Network Administrator 
                                Lutheran Services in Iowa 
                                w: 319.859.3543 
                                c: 319.290.5687 
                                http://www.lsiowa.org
<http://www.lsiowa.org/> 
                                  
                                
                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Pitsch
                                Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 7:07 PM
                                To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                                Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855
Blade Servers
                                 
                                
                                Yes it doe s because Dell will ALWAYS be
behind the other two.  How long have they had to develop a Management
product for their servers and it still stinks?  Come one, 7, 8 years or
more?  they can't do better than open manage?  Still requiring VNC to be
installed to remote the server?  hardly a  lights out solution. 
                                 
                                I don't know how anyone has offended you
but you obviously feel very strongly in Dell.  Great have fun with them
but don't take this thread like it's a personal discussion about you. 
                                 
                                Jeff Pitsch
                                
                                 

                
                
                
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