[THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers

So you choose IBM not because they have a better product, but because of
their reputation? Just clarifying.

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Um I wasn't comparing the hardware...I was comparing the companies and
their stature in the industry.

JK

         

         

        
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        From: roger.riggins 
        Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:27 PM
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        Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers

        I still don't get it. If there is no comparison in hardware,
then you should be able to rattle off some differences that make it so.

        Roger Riggins   
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        Lutheran Services in Iowa 
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        c: 319.290.5687 
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        Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 11:18 AM
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        You are reading between the lines.  I was mearly stating to
Roger that both IBM and HP hardware have a bigger stake in the server
business and are more committed to it then Dell ever was or ever will
be. I am sure that dell equipment runs just fine and serves your purpose
but there really is no comparison.  Dell still needs to grow up and
decide what kind of company it is going to be. IBM and HP are already
there. 

        JK

        
        
        Evan Mann <emann@com> wrote:

                I've got a couple 7 year old Dell PE servers still
running today that have had zero problems.  On e of them is a data base
server with heavy I/O and CPU use (it's now relegated to a testing
machine, too slow obviously).  So my experiences tells me that Dell can
keep up just fine with the competitors in terms of quality of equipment,
uptimes, etc.  My support experiences have been top notch as well.  

                 

                
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                From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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                Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 10:07 AM
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                Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers

                We have used HP/Compaq/Digital/Dec or whatever you want
to call them servers in our computer center for over 10 years. In all
the time we have had them the only thing that has ever failed on any of
them (and it was a Digital Proliant) was one of the re dundant power
supplies and some hard disks over the years. They are exceptional
quality equipment.  The only way a server is ever going to catch fire is
if the fan isn't working or it is not properly ventilated. Dell is just
fine for workstations but they need to stay out of the server business.
I've used IBM eServers to host my websites at my home for 8 years
now...the thing has been running nonstop..no problems ever. 

                 

                I don't believe that dell is as committed to the server
business as IBM and HP/Compaq/Digital are and have been over the last
two decades.  Dell simply just can't compare to the other two...they
haven't earned the respect to even compete with them when it comes t o
servers.  You're kidding yourself if you think any differently.

                 

                Jim

                 

                
                Matt Kosht <matt.kosht@ wrote:

                        I just got an 1855 and am starting to install PS
4.0 on it now. I
                        have had very good luck with Dell servers in
general (we have about 50
                        in service) despite some comments here to the
contrary. I have had a
                        Compaq server catch on fire, had numerous
Compaqs with failed power
                        supplies, had a hosting customer who had
horrendeous service problems
                        with IBM servers (every motherboard in their
Citrix farm was replaced
                        2x)
                        We have one of the poorly designed (any Dell rep
will admit this)
                        1655 blades which was the generation before the
1855 eluded to by
                        others here. Despite some difficulties with KVM
compatibilty and
                        installing an OS it has performed with no nee d
for service for 2
                        years. They seem to have learned a lot with the
1855 (time will
                        tell).
                        
                        Dell is tough to beat on price and in my
experience I have never seen
                        a competitive advantage to buying a more
expensive HP/Compaq/IBM. 
                        Service at the Gold level gets you Domestic
support and 4 hr response
                        (we get more like 2 hrs here) and it's still
cheaper than going IBM or
                        HP.
                        
                        If you buy any kind of quantity from Dell they
will let you eval one
                        (built to your spec) for nothing, for 60 days. I
am sure you could
                        talk HP or IBM into it as well. Why not compare
them head to head?
                        
                        On 1/21/06, Rusty Yates wrote:
                        > I would like to know if anyone on this board
has had any good or bad
                        > experience with the Dell PowerEdge 1855 Blade
Servers. We are currently
                        > taking a hard look at using the Dell Blades
for our Citrix Servers.
                        >
                        > Thanks in advance!
                        >
                        > Rusty

 

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