[THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers

Thanks Jim!!!

Jeff


On 1/24/06, Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Darn freelists put in a %2  use this one...
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell 
> Inc.#Criticism<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell+Inc.#Criticism>
>
> *"Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com <http://thinhelp.com/>">* wrote:
>
> You don't need to Jeff, just direct him to the Wikipedia entry on Dell and
> read about them... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell%2C_Inc.  Look under
> the criticism heading... interesting to note that the entry for IBM and HP
> have no such heading. : )
> JK
>
>
> *Jeff Pitsch <je>* wrote:
>
> Have you read any of my statements?  i have said they are my opinion.  I'm
> sorry if I haven't taken the time to list out my complaints (like OpenManage
> which was stated) and those of my clients (like hard drives that can't be
> replaced anymore because of some bizarre firmware issues).  So please before
> you start throwing mud, please read my posts in their entirety again.  yes I
> will bring up the fact of lights out and being in front means more than just
> a processor, it also deals with management software (again), hardware in all
> it's forms, blades, racks, etc, support for all of it.  That is what I have
> to deal with with my customers, I have to look at everything.
>
> Besides, this entire thread is about peoples opinions and experiences,
> right or wrong.
>
> If you really want, I'll get one of my customers to list out why they
> threw dell out on to the curve.  It will take a couple of days but I'll get
> the list.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On 1/23/06, Roger Riggins <roger.riggins@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >  Jeff, you said "…everything about Dell servers pales in comparison to
> > HP and IBM". I simply want to know why. If you can't expound on your
> > statements then we'll take them for what they're worth and move on. If it's
> > merely an opinion, then say so and don't present it as fact. Rusty's
> > original post was about Dell 1885 blades. You didn't even answer his
> > question, but immediately slammed Dell and its entire server line. It's
> > obvious that YOU are the one that has strong feelings about Dell. Maybe
> > Rusty isn't interested in lights out or being the first on the block to run
> > AMD procs in his NOC. Does that mean that mean that he s till shouldn't look
> > at Dell?
> >
> > Look, you are an enormous asset to this list and your opinion probably
> > carries much weight fo r many readers. That may be even more reason for you
> > to be sure to distinguish between fact and opinion.
> >
> > As for this thread being about me: We are mixed Dell/HP. Our last server
> > purchase was HP servers. I have no loyalty either way and I was never
> > offended. All I'm doing is calling a spade a spade.
> >  Roger Riggins
> > Network Administrator
> > Lutheran Services in Iowa
> > w: 319.859.3543
> > c: 319.290.5687
> > http://www.lsiowa.org
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> > Behalf Of *Jeff Pitsch
> > *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2006 7:07 PM
> > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers
> >
> >  Yes it doe s because Dell will ALWAYS be behind the other two.  How
> > long have they had to develop a Management product for their servers and it
> > still stinks?  Come one, 7, 8 years or more?  they can't do better than open
> > manage?  Still requiring VNC to be installed to remote the server?  hardly
> > a  lights out solution.
> >
> >  I don't know how anyone has offended you but you obviously feel very
> > strongly in Dell.  Great have fun with them but don't take this thread like
> > it's a personal discussion about you.
> >
> >  Jeff Pitsch
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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