Hi mom! ******************************************************************************************************************* Since 1972 Jim Myers Telrad Electronics Fort Wayne, Indiana Doug Keller wrote: > Don't make me have to stop this list! > > Mom > > > DICKSTV wrote: > > >>Leonard, >>First off ... his name is Gerry McCann. Not McCall >>Second NSA has NOTHING to do with NESDA. >>Granted there are some NESDA members , past and present, >>that are affilitated with NSA. >>BUT IT IS NOT THE NESDA OFFICERS. >> >>So in closing, >>Get you facts straight ... before you open your yap ! >> >>T. Clancy Harms >>NESDA member since man created Leisure suits ! >> >>Dick's Radio & TV, Inc. >>2319 West Clay St. >>St. Charles, MO. 63301 >>(636)-724-5055 >>(636)-724-5531 fax >>email; dicksradiotv@xxxxxxxxxx >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Leonard Caillouet" <lcaillo@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 8:44 PM >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: MEMBERS IN GENERAL! Another Nationwide Servicer??? >>NESDA top Brass involved??? >> >> >> >> >> >>>The service industry is changing. The independent servicer is in the same >>>position that independent retailers have been in for years. You have to >>>find a niche where you can offer something that the big corporations >>> >>> >> >>cannot. >> >> >> >>>As they move to board swappers instead of technicians, the fact is that >>> >>> >> >>the >> >> >> >>>need for what many of us do now will be much less in demand. >>> >>> >> >>Consolidation >> >> >> >>>is a natural consequence. >>> >>>What seems distasteful to me is the "private" nature of this NSA Corp >>> >>> >> >>while >> >> >> >>>principals appear to be among the officers of NESDA. I have never been a >>>NESDA member, though for a couple of decades I have tried to find benefit >>> >>> >> >>in >> >> >> >>>joining. I never found a good enough reason to be involved with NESDA. >>> >>> >> >>It >> >> >> >>>always seemed to reek of the good ole boy politics of my home state, >>>Louisiana, also the home of Mr. McCall. Seems like my gut feeling may >>> >>> >> >>have >> >> >> >>>been correct. >>> >>>I run a service shop for a single store retailer that specializes in >>> >>> >> >>custom >> >> >> >>>installation and mostly mid to high end audio, video, and home automation. >>>The way that they compete with the big "whorehouses" is to offer a level >>> >>> >> >>of >> >> >> >>>service and integration that the big guys with there $8/hour employees >>>cannot. We try to do the same in the service department and a lot of our >>>work is crossing over with the installation department. In fact, I have a >>>tech that I am cross-training as an installer specifically for this >>> >>> >> >>reason. >> >> >> >>>We have to be able to solve problems that go beyond fixing the set and the >>>installers need more technical capability. >>> >>>The IBMs and others will learn what Optoma (they contracted with Decision >>>One for all of their service initially and now are scrambling to set up >>>independents) and others have, that an IT/board swapping operation is >>>inefficient and in many ways ineffective. They will end up exchanging too >>>many sets and the cost of service will be too high to sustain the lowball >>>prices on the sales end. Samsung is learning this now with their DLP and >>>PDP systems. If they don't maintain more effective service networks they >>>will end up losing sales in the end. >>> >>>There will always be a place for the independent, just don't expect the >>>gravy like the past and know that we will have to become better and more >>>efficient at what we do to survive. The fact is, many are not very good >>> >>> >> >>at >> >> >> >>>learning new things nor at the kind of integrated customer service that >>> >>> >> >>the >> >> >> >>>independent servicer will have to be doing in the future. But then, as >>> >>> >> >>the >> >> >> >>>old hands retire away, there are very few new techs coming along to do the >>>work who are skilled enough to survive in an independent shop. >>> >>>The cream will rise...I still believe in the free market. Let IBM and NSA >>>do their thing. As for NESDA, I never needed it. It is a shame that it >>>never became what it should have, but that is partly due to the reluctance >>>of members to set the bar higher for themselves. In that respect McCall >>> >>> >> >>has >> >> >> >>>always been right, IIRC, he has always pushed for higher standards. >>> >>>Leonard Caillouet >>>Electronics World >>>1261 NW 76 Blvd >>>Gainesville, FL 32606 >>>352-332-5608 >>>FAX 352-332-5668 >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Ty" <ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>To: "Techassist" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 6:17 PM >>>Subject: [TechAssist] MEMBERS IN GENERAL! Another Nationwide Servicer??? >>>NESDA top Brass involved??? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>The big Hubbub at NESDA! >>>>This is an interesting thread which is developing on the NESDA Net. >>>>It pertains to all Independent Servicers. >>>>Another entity is being setup for "National Service" to cut us out of >>>> >>>> >> >>the >> >> >> >>>>picture? >>>>IS NESDA Involved? >>>>To see it, go to this address: >>>>http://www.tech-assist.org/NESDA.pdf >>>> >>>>I will update it as things develop. >>>> >>>>Ty >>>> >>>>Tiberius Kraemer >>>>BLUE STAR ELECTRONICS >>>>3312 Silverton Rd. NE >>>>Salem, Oregon >>>>Phone: 503 391 1491 >>>>Mailto:ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>--- >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lost Password: > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > Email Archives: > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/