Ah..yes. Diplomacy and Politics don't always travel together, do they?;-) -Ed- Tel-Tek Electronics Ontario-Canada teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx Ask me about the Tech Repair CD. ----- Original Message ----- From: "DICKSTV" <dicksradiotv@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 10:28 AM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: MEMBERS IN GENERAL! Another Nationwide Servicer??? NESDA top Brass involved??? > Leonard, > First off ... his name is Gerry McCann. Not McCall > Second NSA has NOTHING to do with NESDA. > Granted there are some NESDA members , past and present, > that are affilitated with NSA. > BUT IT IS NOT THE NESDA OFFICERS. > > So in closing, > Get you facts straight ... before you open your yap ! > > T. Clancy Harms > NESDA member since man created Leisure suits ! > > Dick's Radio & TV, Inc. > 2319 West Clay St. > St. Charles, MO. 63301 > (636)-724-5055 > (636)-724-5531 fax > email; dicksradiotv@xxxxxxxxxx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Leonard Caillouet" <lcaillo@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 8:44 PM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: MEMBERS IN GENERAL! Another Nationwide Servicer??? > NESDA top Brass involved??? > > > > The service industry is changing. The independent servicer is in the same > > position that independent retailers have been in for years. You have to > > find a niche where you can offer something that the big corporations > cannot. > > As they move to board swappers instead of technicians, the fact is that > the > > need for what many of us do now will be much less in demand. > Consolidation > > is a natural consequence. > > > > What seems distasteful to me is the "private" nature of this NSA Corp > while > > principals appear to be among the officers of NESDA. I have never been a > > NESDA member, though for a couple of decades I have tried to find benefit > in > > joining. I never found a good enough reason to be involved with NESDA. > It > > always seemed to reek of the good ole boy politics of my home state, > > Louisiana, also the home of Mr. McCall. Seems like my gut feeling may > have > > been correct. > > > > I run a service shop for a single store retailer that specializes in > custom > > installation and mostly mid to high end audio, video, and home automation. > > The way that they compete with the big "whorehouses" is to offer a level > of > > service and integration that the big guys with there $8/hour employees > > cannot. We try to do the same in the service department and a lot of our > > work is crossing over with the installation department. In fact, I have a > > tech that I am cross-training as an installer specifically for this > reason. > > We have to be able to solve problems that go beyond fixing the set and the > > installers need more technical capability. > > > > The IBMs and others will learn what Optoma (they contracted with Decision > > One for all of their service initially and now are scrambling to set up > > independents) and others have, that an IT/board swapping operation is > > inefficient and in many ways ineffective. They will end up exchanging too > > many sets and the cost of service will be too high to sustain the lowball > > prices on the sales end. Samsung is learning this now with their DLP and > > PDP systems. If they don't maintain more effective service networks they > > will end up losing sales in the end. > > > > There will always be a place for the independent, just don't expect the > > gravy like the past and know that we will have to become better and more > > efficient at what we do to survive. The fact is, many are not very good > at > > learning new things nor at the kind of integrated customer service that > the > > independent servicer will have to be doing in the future. But then, as > the > > old hands retire away, there are very few new techs coming along to do the > > work who are skilled enough to survive in an independent shop. > > > > The cream will rise...I still believe in the free market. Let IBM and NSA > > do their thing. As for NESDA, I never needed it. It is a shame that it > > never became what it should have, but that is partly due to the reluctance > > of members to set the bar higher for themselves. In that respect McCall > has > > always been right, IIRC, he has always pushed for higher standards. > > > > Leonard Caillouet > > Electronics World > > 1261 NW 76 Blvd > > Gainesville, FL 32606 > > 352-332-5608 > > FAX 352-332-5668 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ty" <ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: "Techassist" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 6:17 PM > > Subject: [TechAssist] MEMBERS IN GENERAL! Another Nationwide Servicer??? > > NESDA top Brass involved??? > > > > > > > The big Hubbub at NESDA! > > > This is an interesting thread which is developing on the NESDA Net. > > > It pertains to all Independent Servicers. > > > Another entity is being setup for "National Service" to cut us out of > the > > > picture? > > > IS NESDA Involved? > > > To see it, go to this address: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/NESDA.pdf > > > > > > I will update it as things develop. > > > > > > Ty > > > > > > Tiberius Kraemer > > > BLUE STAR ELECTRONICS > > > 3312 Silverton Rd. 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