[TechAssist] Re: MEMBERS IN GENERAL! Another Nationwide Servicer??? NESDA top Brass involved???
- From: Edward Gaidies <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 07:53:35 -0400
Yeah..I agree.
It's certainly not the NESDA members.
But it is still a Union of sorts.
As far as bringing topics from other lists, I presume your referring to
Ty's post.
I disagree, after all, it is posted on the internet, and it does
concern our business.
Fair migration.
-Ed-
Ed Gaidies
Tel-Tek Electronics
Ontario-Canada
teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
On 21-Aug-04, at 12:28 AM, Intrepid Video Support wrote:
> Ed,
> NESDA is not about the organization as much as it is about the
> members. I've met some great people that
> are NESDA members as well as the representatives from the
> manufacturers. These tech people from the
> manufacturers know what we go through and they show a genuine interest
> in helping us to their limits.
> On another note...I suggest people be careful before bringing topics
> across other lists, unless you have
> the authors' permissions.
> Jeff
> --
> Intrepid Video TV/VCR Repair
> 263 S Front St, Steelton PA 17113
> 717-939-7708; (F) 717-564-4952
> www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Edward Gaidies" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 8:08 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: MEMBERS IN GENERAL! Another Nationwide
> Servicer??? NESDA top Brass involved???
>
>
> I agree. I did not read the Nesda stuff in it's entirety, but it's of
> little surprise to me.
>
> Nesda is like a Union...you pay your dues, you get recognition thru
> Nesda. Short and simple.
>
> If you are a one man operation, and you don't belong to the
> "association" forget it.
>
> We had the same in Canada, known as CEASA.
> Not sure if they are even around anymore. A great "association" to
> send your dues to, but all they ever did for "you and I"..the little
> guy was make it more and more difficult for us to stay in business.
>
> Now...today...it doesn't make much sense to belong, besides the great
> conventions on a yearly basis, that may or may not be a "write-off",
> because they are there to make sure companies like RCA
> (Thompson)..Panasonic...Toshiba..and Hitachi survive. Not you
> me..LeRoy..Mark..Al..etc.
> "Unions" like this do not survive on our dues, so where is the
> "support" money coming from.;-)
>
> Care to venture a guess?
>
> I hear so much about Nesda this...Nesda that, and probably some will
> say, what does he know, he's Canadian, and doesn't even belong to
> Nesda.
>
> And others, most...will know exactly what I'm trying to say.Damn if you
> do...Damn if you don't.
>
> I know Wayne will disagree with what I'm trying to get across. But you
> have to ask yourself..."What have they done for me over the last year"?
>
> I'm speaking from a one,two man operation, as most of are running.
>
> But then again...I felt the same way about the BBB....(Better Business
> Bureau)..and dropped them because it was costing me $500 a year just to
> be listed.;-)
>
> -Ed-
> Ed Gaidies
> Tel-Tek Electronics
> Ontario-Canada
> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
> On 20-Aug-04, at 7:32 PM, becyn wrote:
>
>> I don't know why this would be a surprise or shock to anyone in this
>> business. The "show" has been over for many years. I stopped bringing
>> on
>> "raw recruits" seven years ago! I let the ranks here shrink by
>> attrition. At
>> this time I consider myself 'semi-retired' from the service business
>> and
>> would rather work on my real-estate interests more.
>>
>> The facts are that the repair vs replacement decision goes
>> overwhelmingly to
>> the "replace" column these days. The only reason that we're still here
>> is
>> that we have evolved and adapted to the market. That means finding as
>> much
>> high end and niche work as possible and being VERY GOOD at it.
>>
>> None the less, the numbers show that we're not growing, but doing
>> less, yet
>> more profitable work. Even with those dire estimates, I am doing
>> better than
>> most and consider myself very fortunate to have no lack of work or
>> "dead
>> time".
>>
>> More and more products are being rolled out with "replacement
>> warranties".
>> More sophisticated products are going to 'board level" repair. So, you
>> can
>> see the handwriting on the wall. It's all moving toward the concept of
>> using
>> national fortune 500's with semi-skilled labor to do exhanges and/or
>> board
>> swapping.
>> Other specialties, such as a "sevice level convergence" will either be
>> a
>> more automated process or at least be downloaded onto PDA's or
>> blackberries
>> for maximun hand-holding of the field staff. If things get bad enough,
>> they
>> can add streaming video links with experienced personel at the main
>> office.
>>
>> Now that I have shown you the future, go have a stiff drink, and plan
>> to
>> apply to IBM on Monday. ;-)
>>
>> Jim McVey
>> McVey Alltronix
>> 327 Broadway
>> Newburgh N.Y. 12550
>>
>> Factory authorized
>> service for over 20
>> major brands.
>> 845 561 8383
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ty" <ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "Techassist" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 6:17 PM
>> Subject: [TechAssist] MEMBERS IN GENERAL! Another Nationwide
>> Servicer???
>> NESDA top Brass involved???
>>
>>
>>> The big Hubbub at NESDA!
>>> This is an interesting thread which is developing on the NESDA Net.
>>> It pertains to all Independent Servicers.
>>> Another entity is being setup for "National Service" to cut us out of
>>> the
>>> picture?
>>> IS NESDA Involved?
>>> To see it, go to this address:
>>> http://www.tech-assist.org/NESDA.pdf
>>>
>>> I will update it as things develop.
>>>
>>> Ty
>>>
>>> Tiberius Kraemer
>>> BLUE STAR ELECTRONICS
>>> 3312 Silverton Rd. NE
>>> Salem, Oregon
>>> Phone: 503 391 1491
>>> Mailto:ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
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