One thing that I neglected to add is that when I dial-up I do hear all the squalling and squawking as the 2 modems are shakings hands, :) which is another thing that I thought might mean that the modem is OK. ___________________ I had the same problem when I first tried to get on the Internet 5 years ago. You need to call your ISP -- mine did the same thing and AOL was the problem. If I had anything with AOL on this computer I couldn't get through for a connection. I have no clue why. Once AOL crap was taken off it -- everything worked fine. Judith To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk