[lit-ideas] Re: Paying taxes for months on end
- From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 07:46:16 -0400
Brian, this post in response to Marlena's questions says nothing
substantive. For example, Marlena's point about the multiple scriptures
that mandate Christians to take care of the poor is unaddressed. Is your
position so lacking in basis that you can offer only emotion and outrage as
a reply? Likewise, you say nothing in response to her statements about
Missouri's governor's actions except to tell her to move. Instead of yet a
second demand for a public apology, why not address her points?
Amago
> [Original Message]
> From: Brian <cabrian@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 5/25/2005 11:30:35 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Paying taxes for months on end
>
>
> On May 25, 2005, at 12:57 AM, Eternitytime1@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
>
> > I wonder if Brian has a corporate jet that the rest of us are
> > subsidizing...and he just wants to make sure that none of us ever
> > are in a position to know
> > about it...
> >
>
> Shh. I'm also employing illegals and am prone to violence, up to and
> including unspeakable acts in voting booths (namely voting Republican)
>
> > (He would not, though, have ever ever made people convert in order to
> > benefit...or do anything else, either. But, then again, he also
> > believed in the
> > whole "Caretaking" mentality of those who have been given much,
> > much is
> > required. [that is also from Scripture if people like Brian who
> > profess to be
> > Christian would bother putting into action the 3000 Scripture
> > verses about taking
> > care of the poor and lesser folk...without judgment...)
> >
>
> Yes, Marlena, only you and people like you know how to follow the
> Gospel of Christ correctly. Keep stereotyping if it makes you feel
> superior or better about the way you conduct your life. You are the
> chosen.
>
> > I am SO glad I am not the woman that Brian knows. Can you imagine how
> > horrible it would be to have a 'deformed' child and know that he
> > would have
> > preferred that the kid be dead on the street rather than have been
> > born or given
> > any additional medical treatment to [maybe] make the quality of her
> > life better?
>
> What are you basing this hateful and disgusting paragraph on?
>
> > I mean--I ended up in such a situation.
>
> This has obviously hurt you and may be why this topic struck a nerve
> with you.
>
> > And, many of the people in the so-called Christian world were alot
> > like
> > Brian's sort of faith-y type--no *real* support in terms of really
> > figuring out
> > the stresses involved in dealing with that.
> >
>
> What do you mean, no support? You don't know me so this is also
> assumption.
>
> > But, maybe people like Brian live in lack and limitation and not in
> > abundance and prosperity and are unable to share what they have and
> > to believe that
> > there is more Out There for them...
> >
>
> Why don't you ask me? I'm used to being spoken to directly as adults
> are accustomed.
>
> > and, that's okay. Just makes me sad and yet, glad, that there ARE
> > still
> > those who are either walking the same Path that I am (the care of
> > the Other is
> > what we base our lives upon--for all sorts of reasons) or taking a
> > more
> > Humanistic Approach in terms of Man Caring for Man or who take to
> > heart the "to him
> > to whom much is given, much is required' and 'what you do unto the
> > least of
> > these, you do unto me' and all of that ...
> >
>
> That's an amazing amount of insularity and self-absorption. Yours is
> a vision of the anointed where the self-congratulations that you
> aren't like [insert adaptable bogeyman here] never ceases.
>
>
> > I also do not mind, in a sense, that there are the Mean Ones who are
> > creating mean and horrible policies.
> >
>
> It is a childish and myopic view of life to consistently label people
> you disagree with in these ways.
>
> >
> > But, otherwise, one ends up kind of like Missouri's governor, who
> > was not
> > able to get the last of the 98,000 kids out of Medicaid through
> > the legislature
> > [though he tried really hard and got rid of many...] is trying,
> > now, to do
> > so via one of the state's departments...which is, pretty much, not
> > legal but
> > he is trying anyway. And, he claims so much ... and his actions
> > are pretty
> > scary if that is how he interprets his faith and claims...
> >
> > I know! Maybe Brian ought to move to Missouri! I bet he would really
> > appreciate what is happening here...
> >
>
> I'm happy where I'm at but not nearly as obsessed with my locale as
> you. You sound so unhappy there so why not move? Are you a masochist?
>
>
> > and the woman with the child might get a person in her life who
> > would not
> > judge her so harshly
> >
>
> I haven't judged them. Where do you go inside yourself to dredge up
> false and baseless accusations about me? Is this part of The Path?
>
>
> > ...and might, even, 'be there' for her and her child...in a
> > more "Christian" sense...
> >
>
> Are you making this up as you go along? Creating a fictional
> biography of my voodoo doll? Pathetic.
>
>
> > the 'old-fashioned, caretaking' sort of
> > Christian...(like my former library director...the old kind...the
> > kind they do not make
> > any more...and whose caretaking legacy is being systematically
> > destroyed ...
> > by the 'new' so-called Christians...who believe in a 'market-based'
> > world...and who do not see what that has caused...kind of like
> > Brian...)
> >
>
> In light of this post I think you owe me a public apology for your
> crass speculations about my character.
>
>
> > Sending positive energy and thoughts to any who are struggling --
> > esp with
> > the judgment of those who would prefer that they just be dead or
> > dying in the
> > street [or hungry or have hungry children...] as well as for the
> > practical
> > needs to be met [by someone...]
> >
>
> Are you kidding with this? You end the most hateful rant I've seen
> in my short time here with this "positive energy" karma ramble.
> Incredibly poor taste. Maybe you can blame it on a neocon.
>
> ~Brian~
>
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