Stan Spiegel wrote: "I don't think you understand quite what Mike was saying. It may have to do with the fact that you're Canadian, not American. What we're going through under George W. Bush is an exact reverse of what Mike said: those who benefit the most in America today have the lowest dues to pay." I could be wrong but my sense is that the very wealthiest Americans are shouldering most of the tax burden and that most of them accept this as part of the deal. It also true that paying 33% on $10 million is not the same burden as 10% on $30,000 relative to cost of living. My point though is not who pays how much but how best to help those who need help. I don't think government is best suited for this though I do think it can support those people/groups who are best suited to doing the job. Stan again: "If you have "dues to pay," you're not able to provide the health care that the very poorest need, the disability income that support them, the school lunches for their children, the housing for the indigent elderly. That's where we all contribute -- and the federal and state governments provide it, hopefully equitably. If a devastating storm obliterates towns in South Florida or Northern British Columbia, you don't have the wherewithal to pick up whole regions and get them on their feet again. That's where your taxes come in. That's where the Federal government comes in." I agree that there are times when this is true. That is, government is good at stepping in where nobody or no organization either can or will get the job done. However, this does not mean that government ought to be doing these jobs nor that they are best suited. I worked for three years for an NGO that did disaster relief all over the world. They built schools and clinics in Iran after both earthquakes and built houses after the various hurricanes hit Florida. They gathered material from donors and organized skilled labourers in a much more efficient and effective way then the government did or could. Again, I think there are roles for government but I don't think that there is anything special about government that makes it best suited for providing what people need. Furthermore, there is good reason to think that government is not suited for doing some of what it is doing in countries like Canada and the U.S. Sincerely, Phil Enns Toronto, ON ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html