On 23 May 2013, at 19:26, Ingo Weinhold <ingo_weinhold@xxxxxx> wrote: > On 05/23/2013 07:51 PM, Denis wrote: >> On 23 May 2013, at 15:03, Ingo Weinhold <ingo_weinhold@xxxxxx> wrote: >>> If you are concerned that creative application developers will invent new >>> categories, we can define a fixed set and enforce it in Deskbar (by simply >>> ignoring others) and/or in haikuporter as part of checking the packaging >>> policy. >> >> This fixed set should be akin to mime-types so it can be properly localised, >> as already suggested. > > I don't see the connection. Nowhere else do we use MIME-type-like strings for > translation. Why should it be necessary in this case? You are right, only translatable strings are required. > >> I think the menu should show items based on both their disk location and >> their predefined category. >> >> - By default apps are added at the top level. > > I believe so far no one has suggested to list applications at the top level. > It's either to use detailed categories or a catch-all "Applications" category > (probably alongside "Preferences"). By top level I mean Applications > >> - Apps at the top level which have a predefined category are listed in the >> appropriate submenu >> - Apps in a subfolder are listed in a submenu named after the subfolder > > Why two methods of specifying categories? To allow both automatic and manual organization > >> - If a folder is empty it is not listed, and if a folder has a single entry >> the folder is replaced by that entry (app or subfolder). This is to prevent >> unnecessary navigation. > > IMO (a) that would just look weird and (b) the location of an app would no > longer be well-defined. It will be well-defined. > >> - It is possible to change the destination folder of new apps. So if you >> want a flat list, create a subfolder and put all apps there. If you want >> known apps to go in their categories and new apps to be segregated in a >> special submenu, keep known apps at the top level and change the default >> destination to "New!" or whatever you want to call it. > > What would be the purpose of this feature? To choose between automatic organization and manual for newly installed apps. > > If this is about making recently installed applications (I suppose that's > what you mean by "new applications") easier to find, then I would suggest a > (virtual) category "Recently installed" which would be populated > automatically by Deskbar with links to the recently installed applications > (additional to their usual location in the menu) or, probably better, a > Windows-style highlighting of the menu items leading to the recently > installed applications. Yes why not? Choice is good. Some people might like to make their own list of recently added apps by hand, too. -- Denis. > > CU, Ingo > > >