[Wittrs] Re: What Is Ontological Dualism?
- From: Gordon Swobe <gts_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 06:37:44 -0700 (PDT)
Meant to write below that "this conclusion does NOT fall under the definition
of 'intuition' as you want to say."
--- On Tue, 4/6/10, Gordon Swobe <wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Gordon Swobe <wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Wittrs] Re: What Is Ontological Dualism?
> To: wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 9:29 AM
> Stuart,
>
> > "Ontological dualism" and you have yet to argue why I
> am wrong. You
> > have only asserted it.
>
> The CRA entails no "ism" of any kind. The man in the room
> has whatever you or I could possibly mean by "consciousness"
> and yet he cannot understand the symbols.
>
> And this conclusion does fall under the definition of
> "intuition" as you want to say. To the man in the room it
> represents an *empirical fact of reality*.
>
> If you cannot see this in your imagination in the form of a
> thought experiment then go ahead and build a real Chinese
> room and try the experiment in reality.
>
> You will notice that it does not matter what sort of
> philosophy you embrace. It does not matter whether you think
> your consciousness exists as a so-called process property or
> as a so-called system property. It does matter whether
> dualism is true or false. None of those considerations
> matter except in your imagination.
>
> In the real world it matters only that...
>
> 1) not even Stuart, a fully conscious human being, can
> understand symbols solely from manipulating them according
> to rules of syntax, and
>
> 2) computers do no more than manipulate symbols according
> to rules of syntax.
>
> -gts
>
>
>
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