--- On Wed, 5/5/10, gabuddabout <wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Now Gordon says he sees only a non-identity claim on > both sides of the premise while Joe avers that he sees > something entirely different from either identity or > causality being invoked by the use of "constitutes". > > They are playing a game with you or are in a serious state > of confusion. Benighted or lying, again. Hey I resemble that remark! Seems to me that if Searle had wanted to make a causal claim in the third premise, he would have done so, and that we should refrain from reading into his words anything that he did not explicitly state. He italicized them after all. One would presume he chose them carefully. Consider the claim "salt is neither constitutive of nor sufficient for gunpowder." I take this to mean: 1) gunpowder contains no salt. 2) salt does not suffice for gunpowder. Strictly speaking it does not equate to a claim about the cause of gunpowder. -gts ========================================= Need Something? Check here: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/wittrslinks/