Perry and all: Don't you think we are better off with NESDA,than nothing? I do! al Al Leatherman 224 Rt. 46 Mine Hill, NJ. 07803 973-361-5796 WWW.ALS-TV.NET ----- Original Message ----- From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 5:41 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Quality Control > I agree with Leonard on this issue. NESDA could do so much more to attract > new members, like Quality control, and to negotiate on behalf of it's > members for more training and better standardizations on warranty repair > rates. I saw none of these things while I was a member. Also, in my opinion > they do not stand by the servicver when there are problems with manufactures > in fear of losing what little support they do get. And forget about saying > anything negative about one of their sponsors. Even true things that could > help all members, do not mention you got bad parts from one of their > sponsor/dealers. I remember when I was a member, I used to always tell them > that they needed a "Tip Program", even suggesting that they start a > "Tip-of-the-day program to encourage more repair tips by members. Ha, the > big wigs would come on line and say that was not what Nesda was about, and > it wasn't needed. I tried to get them to take over WinStips when it was for > sale, I got all sorts of negative feedback from the higher-ups. Well, I see > that they now have a "Tip Program", I guess they needed it more than they > thought. By the way, they never thanked me for suggesting that, just kidding > you Nesda members. They have a lot of good and smart members there if they > would just listen to them. But..with that good ole boy and click mentality > and politics I am afraid it will never be what we need to help all > servicvers, both big and small. These deficiencies have to be fixed before > Nesda will be a organization that all servicers "Have" to be a part of. > Right now many can take or leave them. I am glad my customers do not feel > that way towards our Service Center. > > Perry Bower, (EHEER) Electronic Home Entertainment Equipment Repairer > Electric Medic > "It's Cheaper to Keep Her" > http://www.electricmedic.com > Free Electronic Screensaver: > http://www.eyetide.com/download/?s=O3OfmSLHXygGHCv1W6Gz3Bgjtq3DNNMNdcKsYSVGC > 3850 Washington Road Suite 5b > Augusta, Georgia 30907 > Phone: 706-8MEDIC4 (863-3424) > Phone: 706-863-3474 > Fax: 706-863-2316 > mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Factory Trained Authorized Service Center For: APEX, Curtis Mathes, Fisher, > GE, KEC/KTV, > Konka, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Philips Magnavox, Pioneer, ProSCAN, RCA, > Samsung, Sanyo, Sharp, SONY, Technics, Toshiba, Zenith > > Provide Extended care for: AON, Circuit City, GE Contracts, Glass Agency, > Philips Contracts, NEW, Rex > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Leonard Caillouet > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 5:06 PM > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Quality Control > > > Has NESDA done anything on behalf of the servicer to make the situation any > better, to help identify counterfeit parts, or to otherwise improve the > availability of high quality parts? Just wondering. I have never seen any > evidence of significant benefits from NESDA membership, personally. It > seems that this would be an issue that an organization like NESDA should be > on top of, working with manufacturers and dealers to resolve, since the > problem hurts both. Maybe I'd change my perspective if I saw some action > has taken place. > > Leonard Caillouet > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clancy Harms" <dickstv1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 2:43 PM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Quality Control > > > > Just my suggestion > > > > These issues have been discussed and resolved > > via NESDA! I am not touting ... I am stating facts. > > Think about joining. I did... and I am happy. > > > > Clancy Harms, > > Dick's Radio & TV, Inc. > > 2319 West Clay St. "Aim high men" > > St. Charles, MO. 63301 "they're on camels" > > (636)-724-5055 > > (636)-724-5531 fax > > email: dickstv1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Philip Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 8:36 AM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Quality Control > > > > > > I had a parts house here in Florida I used some years ago.I've never > > seen him mentioned on any forums.Now HIS stuff was horrible.There is > > grades of generac.Some are knock offs, some from the actual > > Mfgr,discontinued. > > Drugs... Diazapam instead of Valium I took for my back for > > example.Chemically same.Big price difference. > > I use Tritronic's generacs in all but a few cases, like the Sony power > > supplies.This is nothing against the TT line of kevin's, ANY generac > > won't do for those Sony's.( I use his Sony PS kit with success).I guess > > it's our responsibility to know where to use generacs and OEMs and not. > > I find several grades of mechanics tools at a store.I must choose if the > > lower cost set will do.They offer us a choice is all.We can,if > > concerned, always default to the OEMs. I'm sure they would be OK with > > selling us a higher price item! ;-). > > Sometimes these generacs are really semis that the manufacturer dumped > > on the market,maybe because they stopped their run of a particular > > chassis that uses them.Not uncommon. > > I think that other guy I mentioned carried "rejects".Some leads were cut > > off,always a few in the bag were defects,etc. > > I've had good luch with Kevins generacs. I made up 9-1674 kits (and > > others) with them and the generac HV blocks and all have stayed up and > > running. > > I know Kevin has a close dialog with module remanufacturers so as to > > design his kits with the right parts.He listens to feedback. > > Hope my experience helped. > > Phil Bader > > > > Tri-County Tv wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > I think it might be a good idea if Kevin from Tritronics could > > let this group know, what quality control goes into Tritronics ordering of > > parts. I have heard many stories about SK products failing or not working > in > > some sets. What about their line of TT-?????? parts, when I look up a part > > on their web site and see an original part for 20.00 and a TT- sub for > 4.95, > > what are you supposed to do, I mean Tritronics says the TT- will sub , but > > what have they done to ensure they are reliable. In our business, we need > to > > streamline our expenses. If you order a TT- sub or any other sub and you > > install it and it works but not like it's supposed to, that little error > > will cost the average shop plenty, in lost labor, parts cost, office labor > > to get a refund, and most important customer satisfaction. Sometimes when > > you fire up that set and the part does not work, your profit margin just > > went out the window when you consider all the above factors. With no > profit > > margin how are! > > su > > > pposed to stay in business? Then again sometimes a TT- sub works fine. > > That type of hit and miss does not sit well with me. I sometimes wonder if > > parts houses consider these factors when they find a cheap supply of > parts. > > Or if you send a part back and tell them it does not work, do they try to > > follow up and see if perhaps their sub is not up to par and remove that > sub > > from their web database as a sub.I am not pointing a finger at any one > > supplier, I think they all should weight in about their quality control > > procedures. Sorry if this is not a fix it tip but in many ways applies to > > every set we work on, so I think it is an important issue. > > > Tom Berger > > > Tri-County TV > > > Robbinsville > > > North Carolina 28771 > > > (tricountytv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > > * > > > The Tech Address Book: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/contact.html > > > Add a Repair Tip Here, or Change/Remove your Email Address: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html > > > Lost Password: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Lost your Login Info?". > > > Email Archives: > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > -- > > Philip Bader > > Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976) > > 3420 Recker Hwy. 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