[TechAssist] Re: Quality Control
- From: Al L <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 14:21:24 -0700
My rule for subs is, I MUST save a LOT of money,and it must NOT be labor
intensive,and it should be a carry in.On my home repairs I use originals
only,and charge more,or I don't do a home repair. Why should I take the
risk?One of the most successful guys I know in this business says it well,"I
am not interested in saving pennies!I charge enough and do the job right
with original parts!"Since following his advice,I make more money. al
Al Leatherman
224 Rt. 46
Mine Hill, NJ. 07803
973-361-5796
WWW.ALS-TV.NET
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tri-County Tv" <tricountytv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 7:35 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Quality Control
> Phil
> I agree in part, but there are thousands of parts on the market and
I
> just don't see how we can know out of all the subs avail, which work and
> which don't. And suppose the parts supplier has a sub and it works, then
> they change a get their subs from another company and those subs don't
work,
> how are we supposed to know, and who should be held responsible for
quality
> control? You said you have no problem with TT- subs except for subbing
Sony
> parts, well does the web sit say that the TT- sub will sub or not and if
it
> will not work, then why is it listed as a sub? I don't think you can
> compare generic semiconductors to generic drugs as the quality control for
> drugs is much better than for semiconductors. And let me make it perfectly
> clear, I am not saying anything bad about Tritronics, I am just using them
> as an example.They seem to monitor our forum here and thought they (as
well
> as the other companies)could give us some insight and peace of mind ,that
> somebody is watching out for us and not out just to make a quick buck. I
> wonder if anyone has comprised a list of generics that work and don't work
> for certain sub situations. Along time ago sams photofact would list subs
> with each schematic and they actually tested each sub to be sure it would
> with that TV list(that's back when you got 3 TV's and several other
> schematics with each #). Now the schematics cost three times as much and
you
> get 10 times less.
> Tom Berger
> Tri-County TV
> Robbinsville
> North Carolina 28771
> (tricountytv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Philip Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 9:36 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Quality Control
>
>
> > I had a parts house here in Florida I used some years ago.I've never
> > seen him mentioned on any forums.Now HIS stuff was horrible.There is
> > grades of generac.Some are knock offs, some from the actual
> > Mfgr,discontinued.
> > Drugs... Diazapam instead of Valium I took for my back for
> > example.Chemically same.Big price difference.
> > I use Tritronic's generacs in all but a few cases, like the Sony power
> > supplies.This is nothing against the TT line of kevin's, ANY generac
> > won't do for those Sony's.( I use his Sony PS kit with success).I guess
> > it's our responsibility to know where to use generacs and OEMs and not.
> > I find several grades of mechanics tools at a store.I must choose if the
> > lower cost set will do.They offer us a choice is all.We can,if
> > concerned, always default to the OEMs. I'm sure they would be OK with
> > selling us a higher price item! ;-).
> > Sometimes these generacs are really semis that the manufacturer dumped
> > on the market,maybe because they stopped their run of a particular
> > chassis that uses them.Not uncommon.
> > I think that other guy I mentioned carried "rejects".Some leads were cut
> > off,always a few in the bag were defects,etc.
> > I've had good luch with Kevins generacs. I made up 9-1674 kits (and
> > others) with them and the generac HV blocks and all have stayed up and
> > running.
> > I know Kevin has a close dialog with module remanufacturers so as to
> > design his kits with the right parts.He listens to feedback.
> > Hope my experience helped.
> > Phil Bader
> >
> > Tri-County Tv wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > I think it might be a good idea if Kevin from Tritronics
could
> let this group know, what quality control goes into Tritronics ordering of
> parts. I have heard many stories about SK products failing or not working
in
> some sets. What about their line of TT-?????? parts, when I look up a part
> on their web site and see an original part for 20.00 and a TT- sub for
4.95,
> what are you supposed to do, I mean Tritronics says the TT- will sub , but
> what have they done to ensure they are reliable. In our business, we need
to
> streamline our expenses. If you order a TT- sub or any other sub and you
> install it and it works but not like it's supposed to, that little error
> will cost the average shop plenty, in lost labor, parts cost, office labor
> to get a refund, and most important customer satisfaction. Sometimes when
> you fire up that set and the part does not work, your profit margin just
> went out the window when you consider all the above factors. With no
profit
> margin how are!
> > su
> > > pposed to stay in business? Then again sometimes a TT- sub works
fine.
> That type of hit and miss does not sit well with me. I sometimes wonder if
> parts houses consider these factors when they find a cheap supply of
parts.
> Or if you send a part back and tell them it does not work, do they try to
> follow up and see if perhaps their sub is not up to par and remove that
sub
> from their web database as a sub.I am not pointing a finger at any one
> supplier, I think they all should weight in about their quality control
> procedures. Sorry if this is not a fix it tip but in many ways applies to
> every set we work on, so I think it is an important issue.
> > > Tom Berger
> > > Tri-County TV
> > > Robbinsville
> > > North Carolina 28771
> > > (tricountytv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
> > >
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> > Philip Bader
> > Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
> > 3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880
> > Fax (863) 299-8821
> > email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
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