[TechAssist] Re: Quality Control
- From: "Wayne Vanaman" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 08:31:56 -0500
Leonard, Perry, and all:
NESDA is too busy bashing its own members (yes, I hear you) to be of any
help in such a matter. Constructive criticism is allways mis-inturpreted as
a direct attack upon an individual. Any comment that Can be viewed as
negitive is somehow twisted out of proportion. I really am almost surprised
that a post for help is not construed as bad-mouthing a product
manufacturer.
NESDA is a very worth-while organization. Manufacturers monitor the
postings and provide direct assistance. Sharp once faxed me a few pages of
a manual. So there are manufacturers that provide direct help, even though
it is not publicly done. Parts suppliers monitor the postings and provide
direct assistance B&D a couple of days sent me an explaination of some of
the variations on the 2sc4834 (I will make a separate posting shortly).
You should consider joining NESDA. Just be aware that it is a politically
"correct", organization whos leadership wears their hearts on their sleeves
so that they may be easily offended. The leadership may even publicly ask
you to leave.
Wayne Vanaman
Omega Electronics
6904 W Fairfield Dr
Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310
Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
850-456-5995 voice
850-458-6369 fax
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leonard Caillouet" <lcaillo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 4:05 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Quality Control
> Has NESDA done anything on behalf of the servicer to make the situation
any
> better, to help identify counterfeit parts, or to otherwise improve the
> availability of high quality parts? Just wondering. I have never seen
any
> evidence of significant benefits from NESDA membership, personally. It
> seems that this would be an issue that an organization like NESDA should
be
> on top of, working with manufacturers and dealers to resolve, since the
> problem hurts both. Maybe I'd change my perspective if I saw some action
> has taken place.
>
> Leonard Caillouet
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clancy Harms" <dickstv1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 2:43 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Quality Control
>
>
> > Just my suggestion
> >
> > These issues have been discussed and resolved
> > via NESDA! I am not touting ... I am stating facts.
> > Think about joining. I did... and I am happy.
> >
> > Clancy Harms,
> > Dick's Radio & TV, Inc.
> > 2319 West Clay St. "Aim high men"
> > St. Charles, MO. 63301 "they're on camels"
> > (636)-724-5055
> > (636)-724-5531 fax
> > email: dickstv1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Philip Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 8:36 AM
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Quality Control
> >
> >
> > I had a parts house here in Florida I used some years ago.I've never
> > seen him mentioned on any forums.Now HIS stuff was horrible.There is
> > grades of generac.Some are knock offs, some from the actual
> > Mfgr,discontinued.
> > Drugs... Diazapam instead of Valium I took for my back for
> > example.Chemically same.Big price difference.
> > I use Tritronic's generacs in all but a few cases, like the Sony power
> > supplies.This is nothing against the TT line of kevin's, ANY generac
> > won't do for those Sony's.( I use his Sony PS kit with success).I guess
> > it's our responsibility to know where to use generacs and OEMs and not.
> > I find several grades of mechanics tools at a store.I must choose if the
> > lower cost set will do.They offer us a choice is all.We can,if
> > concerned, always default to the OEMs. I'm sure they would be OK with
> > selling us a higher price item! ;-).
> > Sometimes these generacs are really semis that the manufacturer dumped
> > on the market,maybe because they stopped their run of a particular
> > chassis that uses them.Not uncommon.
> > I think that other guy I mentioned carried "rejects".Some leads were cut
> > off,always a few in the bag were defects,etc.
> > I've had good luch with Kevins generacs. I made up 9-1674 kits (and
> > others) with them and the generac HV blocks and all have stayed up and
> > running.
> > I know Kevin has a close dialog with module remanufacturers so as to
> > design his kits with the right parts.He listens to feedback.
> > Hope my experience helped.
> > Phil Bader
> >
> > Tri-County Tv wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > I think it might be a good idea if Kevin from Tritronics
could
> > let this group know, what quality control goes into Tritronics ordering
of
> > parts. I have heard many stories about SK products failing or not
working
> in
> > some sets. What about their line of TT-?????? parts, when I look up a
part
> > on their web site and see an original part for 20.00 and a TT- sub for
> 4.95,
> > what are you supposed to do, I mean Tritronics says the TT- will sub ,
but
> > what have they done to ensure they are reliable. In our business, we
need
> to
> > streamline our expenses. If you order a TT- sub or any other sub and you
> > install it and it works but not like it's supposed to, that little error
> > will cost the average shop plenty, in lost labor, parts cost, office
labor
> > to get a refund, and most important customer satisfaction. Sometimes
when
> > you fire up that set and the part does not work, your profit margin just
> > went out the window when you consider all the above factors. With no
> profit
> > margin how are!
> > su
> > > pposed to stay in business? Then again sometimes a TT- sub works
fine.
> > That type of hit and miss does not sit well with me. I sometimes wonder
if
> > parts houses consider these factors when they find a cheap supply of
> parts.
> > Or if you send a part back and tell them it does not work, do they try
to
> > follow up and see if perhaps their sub is not up to par and remove that
> sub
> > from their web database as a sub.I am not pointing a finger at any one
> > supplier, I think they all should weight in about their quality control
> > procedures. Sorry if this is not a fix it tip but in many ways applies
to
> > every set we work on, so I think it is an important issue.
> > > Tom Berger
> > > Tri-County TV
> > > Robbinsville
> > > North Carolina 28771
> > > (tricountytv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
> > >
> >
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> > Philip Bader
> > Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976)
> > 3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880
> > Fax (863) 299-8821
> > email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
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