[tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...

  • From: julie.hey.ho.lets.go@xxxxxxxxx
  • To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:18:58 -0500

If my problem is happening it seems like paying attention to how I turn the
key makes a difference. Like when it turns over and over and doesn't start I
ever so slightly turn the key a bit back and varoom varoom he starts.  It
isn't often that nothing happens so I am not sure what I would do.
On Oct 25, 2011 4:49 PM, <julie.hey.ho.lets.go@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I haven't read every response yet because I am at work so maybe this has
> been covered or maybe it is just a silly idea, I am no mechanic but my '71
> ignition misbehaves sometimes. It isn't very old. Sometimes it won't do
> anything when I turn the key.  Sometimes it turns over like it will start
> but does not.  Once it died at a traffic light and wouldn't start for 20
> minutes. And most times it is perfectly normal especially when their are
> people around that can help me chase down the problem.  Just a thought.
> On Oct 25, 2011 4:38 PM, "James Dwan" <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Update: turned over twice in a row then it stopped turning over at all -
>> did not start. Fuel filter was only half full/empty. Craled under the bus
>> checked connections on the starter, nuts tight will not cross start. The
>> piston engages but does not turn the fly wheel it just stops and
>> occasionally it will emit a low growling noise but it does not want to do
>> it's job.
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:52 PM
>> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>>
>> That's a possibility:  But my guess is some sort of fuel starvation.  Had
>> the same thing happen to me a couple of years ago and kept thinking it was
>> overheated coil.  Finally diagnosed it as vapor lock where the fuel line was
>> dropping down and getting too close to the #3 exhaust.  Course this was on
>> the baja which is rigged unlike any stock VW.
>>
>> --- On *Tue, 10/25/11, mechmark@xxxxxxxxxxx <mechmark@xxxxxxxxxxx>*wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: mechmark@xxxxxxxxxxx <mechmark@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Tuesday, October 25, 2011, 10:17 AM
>>
>>  To me it sounds like the coil is overheating.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"James Dwan" <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
>> *To: *tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:01:04 AM
>> *Subject: *[tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>>
>>  It is a known good engine rebuilt less than 300 miles ago. 1600cc single
>> port
>>
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>> *From:* chuck <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:58 AM
>> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>>
>>  The fuel tap should have a screen attached to it.It is a screen tube
>> that fits on the tap.A quick check would be to see what kind of fuel flow
>> you have from the tank.If you have good flow to the pump check the flow to
>> the carb.
>>   Is this a known good engine or are you working on someone elses trouble
>> and does it have the 36hp.
>> oleblue
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* James 
>> Dwan<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
>> *To:* 
>> tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:50 AM
>> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>>
>>  So if I remove the fuel tap I should be able to remove the screen from
>> there? I have this afternoon off so I plan on switching out dizzys but it
>> seems like an electrical issue that is preventing it from turning over. If I
>> turn the key it goes "wrrrvump" for 1 second then stops. Like it's not
>> getting enough juice. i.e. open circuit, too much resistance. I'll have to
>> wait for a helper to check fuel pressure.
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Eric Woodall <ericthomaswoodall@xxxxxxx>
>> *To:* "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:40 AM
>> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>>
>>  Definitely check the sock screen in the tank.
>>
>> On Oct 25, 2011, at 9:38 AM, "chuck" 
>> <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Check your fuel dilivery and pressure.Could also be a sticking float or
>> trash in a jet.Tank screen?
>> oleblue
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* James 
>> Dwan<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
>> *To:* <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2011 8:38 AM
>> *Subject:* [tcb] I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>>
>> I have had an intermittent starting issue since I can remember (1 year at
>> least?) so anyway, after waiting 10 seconds after the 1st attempt it would
>> start up.
>> Saturday I picked him up from the body shop and it took 5 hours to get it
>> 10 miles into my garage.
>>
>> The engine died 5 miles from my house and I pushed it into a parking lot
>> where Robb noticed the center post on the dizzy cap was broken, walked to
>> FLAPS, replaced drove to the gas staion 1 mile from my house and left it
>> idling as I was pumping gas into the gas can it died, i spent the next hour
>> tring to get it started, replaced the points, condenser and it took 10 tries
>> after that (with jumper cables) to get it started. I got all the way to the
>> driveway and while the door was opening it died again. 2 hours later it
>> barely started and I got it into the garage 5 hours before the hail storm :
>> 0
>>
>> I never replaced the rotor so I did that last night, started up and idled
>> for 5 minutes then died. I started it back up and it idled for 25 minutes
>> and I thought it was fixed.This morning I realized it is not fixed.
>>
>> I have spark, I checked the battery and it was charging (2 weeks ago) it
>> has an 8 v battery but the regulator has been adjusted for that and it  is a
>> brand new wiring harness and I have cleaned the grounds for the battery and
>> tranny ground and I am stumped.
>>
>> the November show is a week and a half away and this is the only thing
>> left to do on him. This weekend, I finally got the  @#*% fixed that was done
>> in Ennis and received the last door panel from Lenny 11 months after
>> requesting a replacement...
>>
>> James
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