[tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...

  • From: James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:57:23 -0700 (PDT)

Always have the fire extinguisher ready. I get off work at 1pm so I 'll shoot a 
pic this afternoon. At the moment I have a 009 dizzy, I have another vacume 
advance dizzy on the shelf but have neglected to install it for some unknown 
reason. No idea what carb it is

Just thinking this through, if I have a fuel delivery issue I must have a 2nd 
problem because out of 20 attempts this morning I only got the starter to turn 
twice...


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From: w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:29 AM
Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...


okay, can I put in a bit of a safety note here.  James, you just have finished 
your bus.  Working with fuel and sparks means you should have an extinguisher 
handy. 

Can I also ask if you have a copy of this book?  
http://www.amazon.com/Keep-Volkswagen-Alive-Step---Step/dp/1566913101/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1319560071&sr=8-1
 

It would illustrate what Chuck and the others are saying a bit better. But 
please make sure you have a fire extinguisher close by.  I know you have an 
iSomethingOrOther can you snap a pic and send us a photo of your engine 
compartment?  Not just because we're fanboys but I'd like to see what kind of 
carb you have and distributor.

So, get in there with the zoom feature.




On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:17 AM, James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Well I had a bright blue and very painfully successful test of the coil wire...
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>From: chuck <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:02 AM
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>Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
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>do you know that you have spark at the end of the 
plug wire? if there is nothing there we should start on the electrical.From 
what 
you discribed it sounds like the electrics are okay.It's not likely that you 
have electrical problem because it will run for awhile before stalling.The hard 
restarts could easyly be a fuel problem.
>oleblue
>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: James Dwan 
>>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:38  AM
>>Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59  won't start, stay running...
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>>Thanks Chuck, I did remove the fuel pump to measure the piston and  did not 
>>notice anything odd but then again I didn't know what I was looking at  - I 
>>have been the happy care free owner of a late model FI set up for 18 years  
>>and am like a caveman lawyer when it comes to early carb'd single  ports...
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>> From: chuck <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:11  AM
>>Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm  stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
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>>Okay. Be sure and check the fuel pump flange.(The  little bakelite thingy 
>>under the pump)The push rod should move freely.Some of  the bakelite flanges 
>>would react with the oil sweel up and sieze the fuel pump  push rod.That 
>>probably is okay but it still needs to be checked.Also check the  pin in the 
>>fuel pump. They have been known to work out.
>>   I'm at home so if you want to talk  give me a call at 903 677 3256.This 
>>shouldn't be to tough unless it's  happening to you.
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>>oleblue
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: James  Dwan 
>>>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:01  AM
>>>Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59  won't start, stay running...
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>>>It is a known good engine rebuilt less than 300 miles ago. 1600cc  single 
>>>port
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>>> From: chuck <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:58  AM
>>>Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm  stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
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>>>The fuel tap should have a screen attached to  it.It is a screen tube that 
>>>fits on the tap.A quick check would be to see  what kind of fuel flow you 
>>>have from the tank.If you have good flow to the  pump check the flow to the 
>>>carb.
>>>  Is this a known good engine or are you  working on someone elses trouble 
>>>and does it have the 36hp.
>>>oleblue
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: James Dwan 
>>>>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:50  AM
>>>>Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59  won't start, stay running...
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>>>>So if I remove the fuel tap I should be able to remove the  screen from 
>>>>there? I have this afternoon off so I plan on switching out  dizzys but it 
>>>>seems like an electrical issue that is preventing it from  turning over. If 
>>>>I turn the key it goes "wrrrvump" for 1 second then  stops. Like it's not 
>>>>getting enough juice. i.e. open circuit, too much  resistance. I'll have to 
>>>>wait for a helper to check fuel  pressure.
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>>>> From: Eric Woodall  <ericthomaswoodall@xxxxxxx>
>>>>To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"  <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:40  AM
>>>>Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm  stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
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>>>>Definitely check the sock screen in the tank.
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>>>>On Oct 25, 2011, 
      at 9:38 AM, "chuck" <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>Check your fuel dilivery and pressure.Could  also be a sticking float or 
>>>>trash in a jet.Tank screen?
>>>>>oleblue
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>From: James Dwan 
>>>>>>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011  8:38 AM
>>>>>>Subject: [tcb] I'm stumped - '59  won't start, stay running...
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>>>>>>I  have had an intermittent starting issue since I can remember (1 year  
>>>>>>at least?) so anyway, after waiting 10 seconds after the 1st attempt  it 
>>>>>>would start up.
>>>>>>Saturday I picked him up from the body shop and 
          it took 5 hours to get it 10 miles into my garage.
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>>>>>>The engine 
          died 5 miles from my house and I pushed it into a parking lot where 
          Robb noticed the center post on the dizzy cap was broken, walked to 
          FLAPS, replaced drove to the gas staion 1 mile from my house and left 
          it idling as I was pumping gas into the gas can it died, i spent the 
          next hour tring to get it started, replaced the points, condenser and 
          it took 10 tries after that (with jumper cables) to get it started. I 
          got all the way to the driveway and while the door was opening it 
died 
          again. 2 hours later it barely started and I got it into the garage 5 
          hours before the hail storm : 0
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>>>>>>I never replaced the rotor so I 
          did that last night, started up and idled for 5 minutes then died. I 
          started it back up and it idled for 25 minutes and I thought it was 
          fixed.This morning I realized it is not fixed. 
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>>>>>>I have spark, I 
          checked the battery and it was charging (2 weeks ago) it has an 8 v 
          battery but the regulator has been adjusted for that and it  is a 
          brand new wiring harness and I have cleaned the grounds for the 
          battery and tranny ground and I am stumped. 
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>>>>>>the November show 
          is a week and a half away and this is the only thing left to do on 
          him. This weekend, I finally got the  @#*% fixed that was done in 
          Ennis and received the last door panel from Lenny 11 months after 
          requesting a 
      replacement...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James
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