[tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...

  • From: "w.wood" <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:29:28 -0500

okay, can I put in a bit of a safety note here.  James, you just have
finished your bus.  Working with fuel and sparks means you should have an
extinguisher handy.

Can I also ask if you have a copy of this book?
http://www.amazon.com/Keep-Volkswagen-Alive-Step---Step/dp/1566913101/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1319560071&sr=8-1

It would illustrate what Chuck and the others are saying a bit better. But
please make sure you have a fire extinguisher close by.  I know you have an
iSomethingOrOther can you snap a pic and send us a photo of your engine
compartment?  Not just because we're fanboys but I'd like to see what kind
of carb you have and distributor.

So, get in there with the zoom feature.



On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:17 AM, James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Well I had a bright blue and very painfully successful test of the coil
> wire...
>
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> *From:* chuck <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:02 AM
>
> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>
>  do you know that you have spark at the end of the plug wire? if there is
> nothing there we should start on the electrical.From what you discribed it
> sounds like the electrics are okay.It's not likely that you have electrical
> problem because it will run for awhile before stalling.The hard restarts
> could easyly be a fuel problem.
> oleblue
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:38 AM
> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>
>  Thanks Chuck, I did remove the fuel pump to measure the piston and did
> not notice anything odd but then again I didn't know what I was looking at -
> I have been the happy care free owner of a late model FI set up for 18 years
> and am like a caveman lawyer when it comes to early carb'd single ports...
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* chuck <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:11 AM
> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>
>  Okay. Be sure and check the fuel pump flange.(The little bakelite thingy
> under the pump)The push rod should move freely.Some of the bakelite flanges
> would react with the oil sweel up and sieze the fuel pump push rod.That
> probably is okay but it still needs to be checked.Also check the pin in the
> fuel pump. They have been known to work out.
>    I'm at home so if you want to talk give me a call at 903 677 3256.This
> shouldn't be to tough unless it's happening to you.
>
> oleblue
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:01 AM
> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>
>  It is a known good engine rebuilt less than 300 miles ago. 1600cc single
> port
>
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> *From:* chuck <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:58 AM
> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>
>  The fuel tap should have a screen attached to it.It is a screen tube that
> fits on the tap.A quick check would be to see what kind of fuel flow you
> have from the tank.If you have good flow to the pump check the flow to the
> carb.
>   Is this a known good engine or are you working on someone elses trouble
> and does it have the 36hp.
> oleblue
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:50 AM
> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>
>  So if I remove the fuel tap I should be able to remove the screen from
> there? I have this afternoon off so I plan on switching out dizzys but it
> seems like an electrical issue that is preventing it from turning over. If I
> turn the key it goes "wrrrvump" for 1 second then stops. Like it's not
> getting enough juice. i.e. open circuit, too much resistance. I'll have to
> wait for a helper to check fuel pressure.
>
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> *From:* Eric Woodall <ericthomaswoodall@xxxxxxx>
> *To:* "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:40 AM
> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>
>  Definitely check the sock screen in the tank.
>
> On Oct 25, 2011, at 9:38 AM, "chuck" <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  Check your fuel dilivery and pressure.Could also be a sticking float or
> trash in a jet.Tank screen?
> oleblue
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 25, 2011 8:38 AM
> *Subject:* [tcb] I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>
> I have had an intermittent starting issue since I can remember (1 year at
> least?) so anyway, after waiting 10 seconds after the 1st attempt it would
> start up.
> Saturday I picked him up from the body shop and it took 5 hours to get it
> 10 miles into my garage.
>
> The engine died 5 miles from my house and I pushed it into a parking lot
> where Robb noticed the center post on the dizzy cap was broken, walked to
> FLAPS, replaced drove to the gas staion 1 mile from my house and left it
> idling as I was pumping gas into the gas can it died, i spent the next hour
> tring to get it started, replaced the points, condenser and it took 10 tries
> after that (with jumper cables) to get it started. I got all the way to the
> driveway and while the door was opening it died again. 2 hours later it
> barely started and I got it into the garage 5 hours before the hail storm :
> 0
>
> I never replaced the rotor so I did that last night, started up and idled
> for 5 minutes then died. I started it back up and it idled for 25 minutes
> and I thought it was fixed.This morning I realized it is not fixed.
>
> I have spark, I checked the battery and it was charging (2 weeks ago) it
> has an 8 v battery but the regulator has been adjusted for that and it  is a
> brand new wiring harness and I have cleaned the grounds for the battery and
> tranny ground and I am stumped.
>
> the November show is a week and a half away and this is the only thing left
> to do on him. This weekend, I finally got the  @#*% fixed that was done in
> Ennis and received the last door panel from Lenny 11 months after requesting
> a replacement...
>
> James
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