[tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...

  • From: James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:14:58 -0700 (PDT)

It's a brand new 9350 miles or so0 Bosch 6 volt. I am wondering if it is the 
coil what could be the cause. I'd hate to replace it once a year if there is 
something causing it. Any ideas?



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From: Fred McDonald <texasbluebus@xxxxxxxxx>
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 1:24 PM
Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...


I had the same problem, the cause turned out to be the COIL!!
After the engine dies touch the coil, if it’s hot, that’s the 
problem.
Don’t buy a coil from Auto Zone or similar places. You need a Bosch Blue or 
similar.
Standard coils are filled with oil and don’t like being mounted upside 
down.
Bosch Blue coils are filled with silicone and work well upside down. 
From: chuck 
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 1:00 PM
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay 
running...
  Yeah, skin is a good way to check for spark.At 
least ya know for sure that you got spark.Okay back to the fuel.
oleblue
----- Original Message ----- 
>From: James Dwan 
>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:17  AM
>Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59  won't start, stay running...
> 
>Well I had a bright blue and very painfully successful test of the  coil 
>wire...
> 
>
>________________________________
> From: chuck <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:02  AM
>Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm  stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>
>
>do you know that you have spark at the end of the  plug wire? if there is 
>nothing there we should start on the electrical.From  what you discribed it 
>sounds like the electrics are okay.It's not likely that  you have electrical 
>problem because it will run for awhile before stalling.The  hard restarts 
>could easyly be a fuel problem.
>oleblue
>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: James  Dwan 
>>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:38  AM
>>Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59  won't start, stay running...
>> 
>>Thanks Chuck, I did remove the fuel pump to measure the piston  and did not 
>>notice anything odd but then again I didn't know what I was  looking at - I 
>>have been the happy care free owner of a late model FI set up  for 18 years 
>>and am like a caveman lawyer when it comes to early carb'd  single ports...
>> 
>>
>>________________________________
>> From: chuck <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:11  AM
>>Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm  stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>>
>>
>>Okay. Be sure and check the fuel pump  flange.(The little bakelite thingy 
>>under the pump)The push rod should move  freely.Some of the bakelite flanges 
>>would react with the oil sweel up and  sieze the fuel pump push rod.That 
>>probably is okay but it still needs to be  checked.Also check the pin in the 
>>fuel pump. They have been known to work  out.
>>   I'm at home so if you want to talk  give me a call at 903 677 3256.This 
>>shouldn't be to tough unless it's  happening to you.
>> 
>>oleblue
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: James Dwan 
>>>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:01  AM
>>>Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59  won't start, stay running...
>>> 
>>>It is a known good engine rebuilt less than 300 miles ago.  1600cc single 
>>>port
>>> 
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: chuck <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:58  AM
>>>Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm  stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>The fuel tap should have a screen attached to  it.It is a screen tube that 
>>>fits on the tap.A quick check would be to see  what kind of fuel flow you 
>>>have from the tank.If you have good flow to the  pump check the flow to the 
>>>carb.
>>>  Is this a known good engine or are you  working on someone elses trouble 
>>>and does it have the 36hp.
>>>oleblue
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: James Dwan 
>>>>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011  9:50 AM
>>>>Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm stumped -  '59 won't start, stay running...
>>>> 
>>>>So if I remove the fuel tap I should be able to remove the  screen from 
>>>>there? I have this afternoon off so I plan on switching out  dizzys but it 
>>>>seems like an electrical issue that is preventing it from  turning over. If 
>>>>I turn the key it goes "wrrrvump" for 1 second then  stops. Like it's not 
>>>>getting enough juice. i.e. open circuit, too much  resistance. I'll have to 
>>>>wait for a helper to check fuel  pressure.
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>> From: Eric Woodall  <ericthomaswoodall@xxxxxxx>
>>>>To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"  <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011  9:40 AM
>>>>Subject: [tcb]  Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Definitely check the sock screen in the tank.
>>>>
>>>>On Oct 25, 
        2011, at 9:38 AM, "chuck" <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Check your fuel dilivery and  pressure.Could also be a sticking float or 
>>>>trash in a jet.Tank  screen?
>>>>>oleblue
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>From: James Dwan 
>>>>>>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011  8:38 AM
>>>>>>Subject: [tcb] I'm stumped -  '59 won't start, stay running...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>I  have had an intermittent starting issue since I can remember (1 year  
>>>>>>at least?) so anyway, after waiting 10 seconds after the 1st attempt  it 
>>>>>>would start up.
>>>>>>Saturday I picked him up from the body shop 
            and it took 5 hours to get it 10 miles into my garage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The 
            engine died 5 miles from my house and I pushed it into a parking 
lot 
            where Robb noticed the center post on the dizzy cap was broken, 
            walked to FLAPS, replaced drove to the gas staion 1 mile from my 
            house and left it idling as I was pumping gas into the gas can it 
            died, i spent the next hour tring to get it started, replaced the 
            points, condenser and it took 10 tries after that (with jumper 
            cables) to get it started. I got all the way to the driveway and 
            while the door was opening it died again. 2 hours later it barely 
            started and I got it into the garage 5 hours before the hail storm 
: 
            0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I never replaced the rotor so I did that last night, 
            started up and idled for 5 minutes then died. I started it back up 
            and it idled for 25 minutes and I thought it was fixed.This morning 
            I realized it is not fixed. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have spark, I checked the 
            battery and it was charging (2 weeks ago) it has an 8 v battery but 
            the regulator has been adjusted for that and it  is a brand new 
            wiring harness and I have cleaned the grounds for the battery and 
            tranny ground and I am stumped. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>the November show is a week 
            and a half away and this is the only thing left to do on him. This 
            weekend, I finally got the  @#*% fixed that was done in Ennis 
            and received the last door panel from Lenny 11 months after 
            requesting a 
        replacement...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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