[tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...

  • From: James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 14:25:50 -0700 (PDT)

Well, I got a late start but I am now in the garage, have my Grateful Dead 
channel on, incense going and am thinking positive thoughts : )

Just tried to start it and the initial start turned over but did not start 4 
subsequent attempts did not turn over at all.
I'll take a pic soon but for now I found out it is most likely a 28 pict carb.

I did extend the fuel line so I could move the fuel filter away from the 
dizzy/coil area. I  have it zip tied below the oil bath on the fan hose for 
what it's worth. I also put on a new NAPPA vented gas cap to rule out that sort 
of vapor lock. Going to check the stater connections and switch out the dizzy 
now



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From: sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:52 PM
Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...


That's a possibility:  But my guess is some sort of fuel starvation.  Had the 
same thing happen to me a couple of years ago and kept thinking it was 
overheated coil.  Finally diagnosed it as vapor lock where the fuel line was 
dropping down and getting too close to the #3 exhaust.  Course this was on the 
baja which is rigged unlike any stock VW.

--- On Tue, 10/25/11, mechmark@xxxxxxxxxxx <mechmark@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


>From: mechmark@xxxxxxxxxxx <mechmark@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Date: Tuesday, October 25, 2011, 10:17 AM
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>To me it sounds like the coil is overheating.
>
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> From: "James Dwan" <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:01:04 AM
>Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
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>It is a known good engine rebuilt less than 300 miles ago. 1600cc single port
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> From: chuck <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:58 AM
>Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
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>The fuel tap should have a screen attached to it.It is a screen tube that fits 
>on the tap.A quick check would be to see what kind of fuel flow you have from 
>the tank.If you have good flow to the pump check the flow to the carb.
>  Is this a known good engine or are you working on someone elses trouble and 
>does it have the 36hp.
>oleblue
>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: James Dwan 
>>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:50 AM
>>Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>>
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>>So if I remove the fuel tap I should be able to remove the screen from there? 
>>I have this afternoon off so I plan on switching out dizzys but it seems like 
>>an electrical issue that is preventing it from turning over. If I turn the 
>>key it goes "wrrrvump" for 1 second then stops. Like it's not getting enough 
>>juice. i.e. open circuit, too much resistance. I'll have to wait for a helper 
>>to check fuel pressure.
>>
>>
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>>________________________________
>> From: Eric Woodall <ericthomaswoodall@xxxxxxx>
>>To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:40 AM
>>Subject: [tcb] Re: I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>>
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>>Definitely check the sock screen in the tank.
>>
>>On Oct 25, 2011, at 9:38 AM, "chuck" <sukchew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>Check your fuel dilivery and pressure.Could also be a sticking float or trash 
>>in a jet.Tank screen?
>>>oleblue
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: James Dwan 
>>>>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 8:38 AM
>>>>Subject: [tcb] I'm stumped - '59 won't start, stay running...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I have had an intermittent starting issue since I can remember (1 year at 
>>>>least?) so anyway, after waiting 10 seconds after the 1st attempt it would 
>>>>start up.
>>>>Saturday I picked him up from the body shop and it took 5 hours to get it 
>>>>10 miles into my garage.
>>>>
>>>>The engine died 5 miles from my house and I pushed it into a parking lot 
>>>>where Robb noticed the center post on the dizzy cap was broken, walked to 
>>>>FLAPS, replaced drove to the gas staion 1 mile from my house and left it 
>>>>idling as I was pumping gas into the gas can it died, i spent the next hour 
>>>>tring to get it started, replaced the points, condenser and it took 10 
>>>>tries after that (with jumper cables) to get it started. I got all the way 
>>>>to the driveway and while the door was opening it died again. 2 hours later 
>>>>it barely started and I got it into the garage 5 hours before the hail
 storm : 0
>>>>
>>>>I never replaced the rotor so I did that last night, started up and idled 
>>>>for 5 minutes then died. I started it back up and it idled for 25 minutes 
>>>>and I thought it was fixed.This morning I realized it is not fixed. 
>>>>
>>>>I have spark, I checked the battery and it was charging (2 weeks ago) it 
>>>>has an 8 v battery but the regulator has been adjusted for that and it  is 
>>>>a brand new wiring harness and I have cleaned the grounds for the battery 
>>>>and tranny ground and I am stumped. 
>>>>
>>>>the November show is a week and a half away and this is the only thing left 
>>>>to do on him. This weekend, I finally got the  @#*% fixed that was done in 
>>>>Ennis and received the last door panel from Lenny 11 months after 
>>>>requesting a replacement...
>>>>
>>>>James
>>>>
>>
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