[sparkscoffee] Re: Pissing on a dead enemy soldier

  • From: "Lee, NI7I" <pixiehat@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:08:31 -0700

Stan, your memory is short. In your original post there was no mention of your opinion humble or otherwise. Since I wasnt there,

I cant judge those soldiers... Neither can you.

On 9/12/2014 8:30 AM, (Redacted sender Sblumen123@xxxxxxx for DMARC) wrote:
Lee
Scroll down and see my first three words, "My humble opinion...". Aren't we all entitled to opinions? "Pissing on a dead enemy soldier" has gotten me more responses on most anything I have posted? 1. How many of you reading this would piss on a dead enemy soldier if you had the opportunity? 2. How would you know what if any dirty crimes he might have committed other then doing his duty of
    trying to kill you?
3. What can you possibly accomplish by this? IN FACT some might interpret this as an act of a coward? 4. Can you see the obvious dangerous reactions if such an event became public? 5. Don't you agree with me that it is best in all cases to treat a dead body with respect and where possible give it a proper funeral of his culture or at least bury it with a proper ID marker and keep a record of it to reduce the number of missing in action cases the same as you would like the enemy
    to do for us?
6. Enough said.
Stanley
In a message dated 9/11/2014 6:18:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pixiehat@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:

    My point Stan, is that you said that that was something a
    professional soldier would not do...  It may not be something you
    would want him to do. I can think of a number of
    professionals in my acquaintance that probably would have.  I cant
    recall being in a position where I chose to take the time for such
    a display.. Too busy surviving I guess.
    You simply are not qualified to say what a professional WOULD or
    even SHOULD do.  Having a drink served by german soldiers
    certainly does not qualify you.



    Lee


    On 9/11/2014 2:24 PM, (Redacted sender Sblumen123@xxxxxxx for
    DMARC) wrote:
    Pixie
    My humble opinion, never ran across a dead enemy warrior but at
    an Officers Bar during or soon after WW2
    I was told the bar tenders were all German POWs which was my only
    personal contact with the enemy. By the way JS so far hasn't
    confirmed that he ran across a dead enemy soldier? Would you piss
    on a dead enemy soldier if you had the opportunity? I obviously
    wouldn't.
    Stanley
    In a message dated 9/11/2014 4:49:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
    pixiehat@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:

        Just curious stan, how much experience do you have as a
        professional soldier, or is this your opinion about what a
        professional soldier would
        do?



        On 9/11/2014 12:07 PM, (Redacted sender Sblumen123@xxxxxxx
        for DMARC) wrote:
        JS
        You are doing quite a bit of cherry picking of your own by
        not replying to my direct questions. I still believe
        pissing on any dead man, warrior or not is childish that a
        professional soldier would not do under any circumstance. My
        understanding is that cowards usually live by running away
        and that is why they are called cowards.
        Comrade B.
        In a message dated 9/11/2014 1:54:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight
        Time, schalestock@xxxxxxxx writes:

            Stanley,
            As usual, you seem to cherry pick a few words out of
            context and ignore the total comment.
            So let me put it another way. True warriors DO respect
            each other . We hated the NVA but we respected them -
            right up to the point they committed unnecessary
            atrocites on our men.
            A warrior deals in death - both the enemy's and the
            possibility of his own. This is accepted as part of the
            life they have chosen. What is not accepted is the
            brutality of cowards. Then payback comes in kind.
            Pissing on a coward's corpse is sending a message to his
            friends that they are not respected as warriors or even
            as men.  But I don't really expect you to get any of this.
            JS


            ---------- Original Message ----------
            From: "" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender
            "Sblumen123@xxxxxxx" for DMARC)
            To: chucksright@xxxxxxxxx
            Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Pissing on a dead enemy soldier
            Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:37:52 -0400

            Chuck
            You haven't heard of the Genieva Convention on the rules
            of war? Per my item 3. I like to think that not even
            all ISIS fighters believe in chopping off heads and mass
            shooting of civilian men laying on the ground with their
            hands tied behind their back plus I don't believe the
            dead soldier pissed on was an ISIS? Anyhow not all of
            our enemy warriors are the same. Incidentally how would
            any soldier know if the dead enemy soldier before him
            had committed some terrible crime?
            Stanley
            In a message dated 9/10/2014 9:01:26 P.M. Eastern
            Daylight Time, chucksright@xxxxxxxxx writes:

                C'mon Stan, you want us to to do battle under the
                Marquis of Queensbury rules while they kick us in
                the balls (or should I say cut off our heads).  You
                are blinded to the facts by your loony Socialist
                philosophy.
                Chuck

                On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:56 PM, <Sblumen123@xxxxxxx
                <mailto:Sblumen123@xxxxxxx>> wrote:

                    Attention John Shalestock, our house warrior
                    1. After some thought I am proposing that it is
                    extremely childish accomplishing  nothing except
                    inviting ridicule and endangering ones self and
                    all comrades and embarrassing our country making
                    it more difficult to win a war plus being
                    counter to the Genieva Convention on warfare,
                    even if the dead soldier is a butcher murdering
                    women and children.
                    2. Those who did the pissing should be brought
                    to trial and if found guilty should be punished
                    the same as
                    any other war time crime.
                    3. Not all enemy warriors are the same devils,
                    some like on our side will have doubts about the
                    justification
                    of their war, some may even come over to our
                    side or even turn into spies for us?
                    4. It should be required training that all
                    warriors should be taught to treat prisoners and
                    dead enemies with
                    respect and where possible they should be given
                    a funeral of their culture regardless of their
                    alleged crimes.
                    5. Remember Viet Nam where a squad took their
                    vengence on women and children which was a terrible
                    embarrassment to all of us.
                    Stanley



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