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- Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:23:55 -0400
RR
Thanks for the compliment and the series of posts, it is all very
educational and interesting.
Comrade B., The house Jewish, Zionist, Socialist
In a message dated 9/12/2014 9:27:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Maybe it can burn that hot in free air when combined with compressed
oxygen like an oxy acetylene torch or a turbo jet engine, but that has
nothing
to do with burning inside a building. As Stan would say, think, think,
think.
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From: "schalestock@xxxxxxxx"
Sent: Sep 12, 2014 7:10 AM
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: New York City Asks: What Happened to the 1,116
Miss ing 9/11 Victims?
<ZZZHT
Steel melts at 2500 degrees. Burning jet fuel can reach 1790F. That
degrades steel by as much as 65% - failure level. Creamation fires reach
1800
to 2000 deg F. You can pull that out of your ass if it makes you feel better.
JS
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From: Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: New York City Asks: What Happened to the 1,116
Miss ing 9/11 Victims?
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 06:41:18 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
JS,
How did you come up with that temperature for burning jet fuel? Did you
pull it out of your ass?
Excerpt from the scientific report:
So, the jet fuel could (at the very most) have only added T - 25 = 282 -
25 = 257° C (495° F) to the temperature of the typical office fire that
developed.
Remember, this figure is a huge over-estimate, as (among other things) it
assumes that the steel and concrete had an unlimited amount of time to
absorb the heat, whereas in reality, the jet fuel fire was all over in one or
two minutes, and the energy not absorbed by the concrete and steel within
this brief period (that is, almost all of it) would have been vented to the
outside world.
Quote from the FEMA report into the collapse of WTC's One and Two (Chapter
Two).
Here are statements from three eye-witnesses that provide evidence that
the heating due to the jet fuel was indeed minimal.
Donovan Cowan was in an open elevator at the 78th floor sky-lobby (one of
the impact floors of the South Tower) when the aircraft hit. He has been
quoted as saying: "We went into the elevator. As soon as I hit the button,
that's when there was a big boom. We both got knocked down. I remember
feeling this intense heat. The doors were still open. The heat lasted for
maybe
15 to 20 seconds I guess. Then it stopped."
Stanley Praimnath was on the 81st floor of the South Tower: "The plane
impacts. I try to get up and then I realize that I'm covered up to my shoulder
in debris. And when I'm digging through under all this rubble, I can see
the bottom wing starting to burn, and that wing is wedged 20 feet in my
office doorway."
Ling Young was in her 78th floor office: "Only in my area were people
alive, and the people alive were from my office. I figured that out later
because I sat around in there for 10 or 15 minutes. That's how I got so
burned."
Neither Stanley Praimnath nor Donovan Cowan nor Ling Young were cooked by
the jet fuel fire. All three survived.
You can read the complete scientific analysis here:
http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/how-hot.htm
-RR
-----Original Message-----
From: "schalestock@xxxxxxxx" <schalestock@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sep 12, 2014 4:44 AM
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: New York City Asks: What Happened to the 1,116
Miss ing 9/11 Victims?
RR
One explantion COULD be they were molated in the burning jet fuel which
burns at 2500 deg. F - I think about the same as a creamatorium. Just a
thought.
JS
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From: Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] New York City Asks: What Happened to the 1,116
Missing 9/11 Victims?
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 19:40:25 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
More than 11 years after the catastrophic destruction of the World Trade
Center, New York City’s government is finally asking: What in the world
could have happened to the missing 1,116 victims?
In every building collapse in history, all of the victims’ bodies have
been recovered more or less intact. That is because falling buildings crush
human bodies. They do not shred them into tiny pieces, or cause them to
vanish into thin air.
Yet on September 11th, 2001, the most famous “building collapses” in
history somehow caused the bodies of more than 1,000 victims to magically
disappear. Not even a shred of skin, a fragment of fingernail, or a shard of
bone from any of these bodies was ever recovered, despite meticulous “sifting
and bucketing” efforts.
But that’s not the only mystery. Hardly anything was left of the 1,634 WTC
occupants who did not completely vanish. Most of the human remains
discovered and DNA-identified were in the form of tiny, shredded pieces, not
intact bodies.
What happened to the nearly 3,000 human bodies that were annihilated
during the ten-second disappearances of the 110-story Towers? Answer: The same
thing that happened to the office furniture, filing cabinets, telephones,
computers, and other contents of the Towers. Virtually no remains of these
objects were ever recovered, either. They – like the human bodies – were
somehow transformed into a mixture of tiny shards and sub-100-micron dust,
which floated out to sea and slowly settled into the Atlantic. As one of the
sifters-and-bucketers remarked, the biggest piece of office furniture
recovered from Ground Zero was a tiny fragment of a telephone keypad.
Now, more than 11 years later, the New York City government is finally
acknowledging the mystery. In a memo to the 9/11 victims’ families, NYC
official Casey Holloway announced that this Monday, April 1st, the city’s
Chief
Medical Examiner will begin sifting through 60 truckloads of World Trade
Center construction debris at Fresh Kills Landfill on Staten Island. The city
says it hopes to find remains of at least some of the 1,116 missing
victims.
Unfortunately, the chances of finding remains of more than a few
additional victims seem remote. After all, the Twin Towers debris – which
amounted
to less than 50% of the mass of the Towers (what happened to the rest of the
mass?) – was already meticulously sifted and bucketed more than a decade
ago. The city’s decision to sift through recent construction debris
beginning April 1st bears more than a passing resemblance to George W. Bush’s
decision to get down on his hands and knees to look under his desk for the
missing Iraqi WMD. Is this some kind of cruel April Fools’ Day joke?
The absence of crushed-but-intact human bodies, office furniture and
equipment, and 50% of the Towers’ mass suggests that the Twin Towers did not
collapse – they exploded. (See the Youtube film “North Tower Exploding.”)
This would explain why tiny human bone fragments were discovered scattered all
over the roof of the neighboring Deutsche Bank building in 2006. No simple
gravitational collapse, like the one posited by US government’s official
NIST Report, could possibly blast human skeletons to smithereens and deposit
those smithereens all over the roof of a neighboring building.
Were the Twin Towers, and the thousands of people inside them, blown to
bits by explosives? That is what many of the 9/11 victims’ family members
believe. Robert McIlvaine, whose son Bobby was murdered in the Twin Towers on
9/11, has stated that roughly half the family members share his suspicion
that the Towers were explosively demolished in a false-flag attack. William
Rodriguez, the famous 9/11 hero who has spoken to hundreds of thousands of
people around the world, is another representative of the 9/11 survivors
who asserts that the evidence for “controlled demolition” is an open secret.
Read the full article at: _veteranstoday.com_
(http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/04/01/911victims/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=911victims
)
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/04/01/911victims/?utm_source=rss&utm_mediu
m=rss&utm_campaign=911victims
-RR
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