[sparkscoffee] Re: Pissing on a dead enemy soldier
- From: "schalestock@xxxxxxxx" <schalestock@xxxxxxxx>
- To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 14:00:44 GMT
Stanley, You are one lazy ignoramus. Look it up yourself. Its public record. JS
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From: "" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "Sblumen123@xxxxxxx"
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To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Pissing on a dead enemy soldier
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:35:49 -0400
JSI never said I knew the facts of this case but you here indicated that you
do? IS IT A FACT THAT THE PISSERS WERE COURTMARTIALED? What was the punishment
if any? Do you realize that this means that the Military agrees with my point
of view, not yours? Was it brought out at the trial what this dead enemy did
that got the soldiers to piss on him? You state that it is WELL DOCUMENTED then
how about posting the significant parts or don't you have or cannot get what
should be public? Would you still piss on a dead enemy if you knew you would be
courtmartialed? I am always interested in the facts. PUT UP OR SHUT UP, THIS IS
IMPORTANT. Stanley B. In a message dated 9/12/2014 1:46:38 P.M. Eastern
Daylight Time, schalestock@xxxxxxxx writes:Lee, Not that it will make any
difference to Stanley, but the events leading up the pissing incident are well
documented because of the ensuing courtmartials. (not that Stanley is ever
bothered by facts.) Given the events, I would have pissed on him too. Stanley
doesn't seem to understand that you can both respect and kill an enemy. That's
an entirely different thing from showing disrespect for one who has
unnecessarily mutilated one of your comrades. But I guess I better add this is
only my opinion. JS
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From: "Lee, NI7I" <pixiehat@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Pissing on a dead enemy soldier
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:22:25 -0700
One of the th9ings that irritate me is people who make claims to know what goes
on during the course of armed
conflict. Especially one whose only contact with a uniformed enemy is having
drinks served by him at a bar.
Lee
On 9/12/2014 10:12 AM, (Redacted sender Sblumen123@xxxxxxx for DMARC)
wrote:LeeSorry if I misled you into thinking I was stating fact and not
opinion. On the rest of your post we agree to disagree. Stan In a message dated
9/12/2014 1:07:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pixiehat@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:That
was my point... Opinions should be stated as such. As for your "questions",
They just dont make sense. It does, as a matter
of FACT whether I was there or not. Since I was not, I am in no position to
judge those acts. Those that would judge an act of
cowardice without more information are simply not in a position to do so. Most
people have no idea what "cowardice " is.
I dont see how any of this has to do with properly identifying the dead. Does
urine somehow erase the identity ?
In my humble opinion, your questions are little better than gibberish.
Lee
On 9/12/2014 9:41 AM, (Redacted sender Sblumen123@xxxxxxx for DMARC)
wrote:LeeSorry old fellar, if my original post didn't mention humble opinion
then it should of. However myhumble opinion and everyone elses still stands
whether we or you were there or not. Any response tofive of my points? Stanley
In a message dated 9/12/2014 12:09:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
pixiehat@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:Stan, your memory is short. In your original post
there was no mention of your opinion humble or otherwise. Since I wasnt there,
I cant judge those soldiers... Neither can you.
On 9/12/2014 8:30 AM, (Redacted sender Sblumen123@xxxxxxx for DMARC)
wrote:LeeScroll down and see my first three words, "My humble opinion...".
Aren't we all entitled to opinions?"Pissing on a dead enemy soldier" has gotten
me more responses on most anything I have posted? 1. How many of you reading
this would piss on a dead enemy soldier if you had the opportunity?2. How would
you know what if any dirty crimes he might have committed other then doing his
duty of trying to kill you?3. What can you possibly accomplish by this? IN
FACT some might interpret this as an act of a coward?4. Can you see the obvious
dangerous reactions if such an event became public?5. Don't you agree with me
that it is best in all cases to treat a dead body with respect and where
possible give it a proper funeral of his culture or at least bury it with a
proper ID marker and keep a record of it to reduce the number of missing in
action cases the same as you would like the enemy to do for us? 6. Enough
said. Stanley In a message dated 9/11/2014 6:18:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
pixiehat@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:My point Stan, is that you said that that was
something a professional soldier would not do... It may not be something you
would want him to do. I can think of a number of
professionals in my acquaintance that probably would have. I cant recall being
in a position where I chose to take the time for such a display.. Too busy
surviving I guess.
You simply are not qualified to say what a professional WOULD or even SHOULD
do. Having a drink served by german soldiers certainly does not qualify you.
Lee
On 9/11/2014 2:24 PM, (Redacted sender Sblumen123@xxxxxxx for DMARC)
wrote:PixieMy humble opinion, never ran across a dead enemy warrior but at an
Officers Bar during or soon after WW2I was told the bar tenders were all German
POWs which was my only personal contact with the enemy. By the way JS so far
hasn't confirmed that he ran across a dead enemy soldier? Would you piss on a
dead enemy soldier if you had the opportunity? I obviously wouldn't. Stanley
In a message dated 9/11/2014 4:49:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
pixiehat@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:Just curious stan, how much experience do you have
as a professional soldier, or is this your opinion about what a professional
soldier would
do?
On 9/11/2014 12:07 PM, (Redacted sender Sblumen123@xxxxxxx for DMARC)
wrote:JSYou are doing quite a bit of cherry picking of your own by not replying
to my direct questions. I still believepissing on any dead man, warrior or not
is childish that a professional soldier would not do under any circumstance. My
understanding is that cowards usually live by running away and that is why they
are called cowards. Comrade B. In a message dated 9/11/2014 1:54:39 P.M.
Eastern Daylight Time, schalestock@xxxxxxxx writes:Stanley, As usual, you seem
to cherry pick a few words out of context and ignore the total comment. So let
me put it another way. True warriors DO respect each other . We hated the NVA
but we respected them - right up to the point they committed unnecessary
atrocites on our men. A warrior deals in death - both the enemy's and the
possibility of his own. This is accepted as part of the life they have chosen.
What is not accepted is the brutality of cowards. Then payback comes in kind.
Pissing on a coward's corpse is sending a message to his friends that they are
not respected as warriors or even as men. But I don't really expect you to get
any of this. JS
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From: "" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "Sblumen123@xxxxxxx"
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To: chucksright@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Pissing on a dead enemy soldier
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:37:52 -0400
ChuckYou haven't heard of the Genieva Convention on the rules of war? Per my
item 3. I like to think that not even all ISIS fighters believe in chopping off
heads and mass shooting of civilian men laying on the ground with their hands
tied behind their back plus I don't believe the dead soldier pissed on was an
ISIS? Anyhow not all of our enemy warriors are the same. Incidentally how would
any soldier know if the dead enemy soldier before him had committed some
terrible crime? Stanley In a message dated 9/10/2014 9:01:26 P.M. Eastern
Daylight Time, chucksright@xxxxxxxxx writes:C'mon Stan, you want us to to do
battle under the Marquis of Queensbury rules while they kick us in the balls
(or should I say cut off our heads). You are blinded to the facts by your
loony Socialist philosophy. Chuck
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:56 PM, <Sblumen123@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Attention John Shalestock, our house warrior 1. After some thought I am
proposing that it is extremely childish accomplishing nothing except inviting
ridicule and endangering ones self and all comrades and embarrassing our
country making it more difficult to win a war plus being counter to the Genieva
Convention on warfare, even if the dead soldier is a butcher murdering women
and children. 2. Those who did the pissing should be brought to trial and if
found guilty should be punished the same asany other war time crime. 3. Not all
enemy warriors are the same devils, some like on our side will have doubts
about the justificationof their war, some may even come over to our side or
even turn into spies for us? 4. It should be required training that all
warriors should be taught to treat prisoners and dead enemies withrespect and
where possible they should be given a funeral of their culture regardless of
their alleged crimes. 5. Remember Viet Nam where a squad took their vengence on
women and children which was a terribleembarrassment to all of us. Stanley
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