[sparkscoffee] Re: Pissing on a dead enemy soldier

  • From: "Lee, NI7I" <pixiehat@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:06:44 -0700

That was my point... Opinions should be stated as such. As for your "questions", They just dont make sense. It does, as a matter of FACT whether I was there or not. Since I was not, I am in no position to judge those acts. Those that would judge an act of cowardice without more information are simply not in a position to do so. Most people have no idea what "cowardice " is. I dont see how any of this has to do with properly identifying the dead. Does urine somehow erase the identity ?

In my humble opinion, your questions are little better than gibberish.

Lee

On 9/12/2014 9:41 AM, (Redacted sender Sblumen123@xxxxxxx for DMARC) wrote:
Lee
Sorry old fellar, if my original post didn't mention humble opinion then it should of. However my humble opinion and everyone elses still stands whether we or you were there or not. Any response to
five of my points?
Stanley
In a message dated 9/12/2014 12:09:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pixiehat@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:

    Stan, your memory is  short. In your original post there was no
    mention of your opinion humble or otherwise.  Since I wasnt there,
    I cant judge those soldiers... Neither can you.

    On 9/12/2014 8:30 AM, (Redacted sender Sblumen123@xxxxxxx for
    DMARC) wrote:
    Lee
    Scroll down and see my first three words, "My humble opinion...".
    Aren't we all entitled to opinions?
    "Pissing on a dead enemy soldier" has gotten me more responses on
    most anything I have posted?
    1. How many of you reading this would piss on a dead enemy
    soldier if you had the opportunity?
    2. How would you know what if any dirty crimes he might have
    committed other then doing his duty of
        trying to kill you?
    3. What can you possibly accomplish by this? IN FACT some might
    interpret this as an act of a coward?
    4. Can you see the obvious dangerous reactions if such an event
    became public?
    5. Don't you agree with me that it is best in all cases to treat
    a dead body with respect and where
        possible give it a proper funeral of his culture or at least
    bury it with a proper ID marker and keep a
        record of it to reduce the number of missing in action cases
    the same as you would like the enemy
        to do for us?
    6. Enough said.
    Stanley
    In a message dated 9/11/2014 6:18:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
    pixiehat@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:

        My point Stan, is that you said that that was something a
        professional soldier would not do...  It may not be something
        you would want him to do. I can think of a number of
        professionals in my acquaintance that probably would have.  I
        cant recall being in a position where I chose to take the
        time for such a display.. Too busy surviving I guess.
        You simply are not qualified to say what a professional WOULD
        or even SHOULD do.  Having a drink served by german soldiers
        certainly does not qualify you.



        Lee


        On 9/11/2014 2:24 PM, (Redacted sender Sblumen123@xxxxxxx for
        DMARC) wrote:
        Pixie
        My humble opinion, never ran across a dead enemy warrior but
        at an Officers Bar during or soon after WW2
        I was told the bar tenders were all German POWs which was my
        only personal contact with the enemy. By the way JS so far
        hasn't confirmed that he ran across a dead enemy soldier?
        Would you piss on a dead enemy soldier if you had the
        opportunity? I obviously wouldn't.
        Stanley
        In a message dated 9/11/2014 4:49:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight
        Time, pixiehat@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:

            Just curious stan, how much experience do you have as a
            professional soldier, or is this your opinion about what
            a professional soldier would
            do?



            On 9/11/2014 12:07 PM, (Redacted sender
            Sblumen123@xxxxxxx for DMARC) wrote:
            JS
            You are doing quite a bit of cherry picking of your own
            by not replying to my direct questions. I still believe
            pissing on any dead man, warrior or not is childish
            that a professional soldier would not do under any
            circumstance. My understanding is that cowards usually
            live by running away and that is why they are called
            cowards.
            Comrade B.
            In a message dated 9/11/2014 1:54:39 P.M. Eastern
            Daylight Time, schalestock@xxxxxxxx writes:

                Stanley,
                As usual, you seem to cherry pick a few words out
                of context and ignore the total comment.
                So let me put it another way. True warriors DO
                respect each other . We hated the NVA but we
                respected them - right up to the point they
                committed unnecessary atrocites on our men.
                A warrior deals in death - both the enemy's and the
                possibility of his own. This is accepted as part of
                the life they have chosen. What is not accepted is
                the brutality of cowards. Then payback comes in
                kind. Pissing on a coward's corpse is sending a
                message to his friends that they are not respected
                as warriors or even as men.  But I don't really
                expect you to get any of this.
                JS


                ---------- Original Message ----------
                From: "" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted
                sender "Sblumen123@xxxxxxx" for DMARC)
                To: chucksright@xxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Pissing on a dead enemy
                soldier
                Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:37:52 -0400

                Chuck
                You haven't heard of the Genieva Convention on the
                rules of war? Per my item 3. I like to think that
                not even all ISIS fighters believe in chopping off
                heads and mass shooting of civilian men laying on
                the ground with their hands tied behind their
                back plus I don't believe the dead soldier pissed
                on was an ISIS? Anyhow not all of our enemy
                warriors are the same. Incidentally how would any
                soldier know if the dead enemy soldier before him
                had committed some terrible crime?
                Stanley
                In a message dated 9/10/2014 9:01:26 P.M. Eastern
                Daylight Time, chucksright@xxxxxxxxx writes:

                    C'mon Stan, you want us to to do battle under
                    the Marquis of Queensbury rules while they kick
                    us in the balls (or should I say cut off our
                    heads).  You are blinded to the facts by your
                    loony Socialist philosophy.
                    Chuck

                    On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:56 PM,
                    <Sblumen123@xxxxxxx
                    <mailto:Sblumen123@xxxxxxx>> wrote:

                        Attention John Shalestock, our house warrior
                        1. After some thought I am proposing that
                        it is extremely childish accomplishing
                         nothing except inviting ridicule and
                        endangering ones self and all comrades and
                        embarrassing our country making it more
                        difficult to win a war plus being counter
                        to the Genieva Convention on warfare, even
                        if the dead soldier is a butcher murdering
                        women and children.
                        2. Those who did the pissing should be
                        brought to trial and if found guilty should
                        be punished the same as
                        any other war time crime.
                        3. Not all enemy warriors are the same
                        devils, some like on our side will have
                        doubts about the justification
                        of their war, some may even come over to
                        our side or even turn into spies for us?
                        4. It should be required training that all
                        warriors should be taught to treat
                        prisoners and dead enemies with
                        respect and where possible they should be
                        given a funeral of their culture regardless
                        of their alleged crimes.
                        5. Remember Viet Nam where a squad took
                        their vengence on women and children which
                        was a terrible
                        embarrassment to all of us.
                        Stanley



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