That is why morality exists becaise it is self evident just like our inalianable rights are. 73 DR On Mar 2, 2013 4:35 PM, "Ron Ristad" <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Lee, > I don't think you need anybody else to tell you that things like causing > harm to another human being, lying and stealing are wrong. On the > contrary, societies and organized religions as often as not forgive, if not > condone those things when it benefits the leaders. > > Once you have accepted the idea that morals are defined by some authority > then you are truly lost. You are nothing but a pawn to be used to do the > dirty work of evil people who are smarter than you are. > > -RR > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pixiehat ** > Sent: Mar 2, 2013 3:04 PM > To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: National Prayer Breakfast with Obama Present > > ************ > Are we expected to accept what you say simply because you have said it? > Look up the definition of morality. In the dictionaries I used, I saw no > mention of god or gods laws. While your values are certainly valid from > your point of view, they are not universal. What is viewed as moral in one > culture is not necessarily moral in another. Being a world traveler, Im > sure you didn't need that pointed out to you. > > Lee > > > Sent from my U.S. Cellular© Smartphone > > > > -------- Original message -------- > Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: National Prayer Breakfast with Obama Present > From: "schalestock@xxxxxxxx" <schalestock@xxxxxxxx> > To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > CC: > > > Morality is indeed based on "God's" law. If you don't believe in God, > take it up with Einstein who finally concluded there was a "Grand Designer" > of the universe. > > JS > > ____________________________________________________________ > Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. > http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2 > > ****** > > > > "Laws control the lesser man. Right conduct controls the greater one." > - Chinese Proverb > >