The historian Josiphus records Jesus' crucification among others. The gospels were written before 100 CE (AD). Many people disobey G-d's laws. Again and again archelogical digs have verified the existance of events in OT and NT. 73 DR -- Sent from my Android nook color with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >DR, >There are no historical records that show Jesus Christ ever lived, let >alone of his death. The earliest writings about Christ, the books of >Mathew, Mark, Luke and John in the New Testament, were not written >until 100 years after Christ's death. > >It doesn't matter what this person says or that person says. It's about >having faith. > >For example, if it were an accepted fact that God commanded "Thou shall >not kill", then there wouldn't be any wars, and rulers could not allow >that. But if the story is wrapped up with a bunch of fairy tales then >it is allowed to spread. Not everybody will believe it but at least the >information is made available. > >A person who follows Christ's teachings is freed from fear, greed, and >envy and soon begins to see things the way they really are. Many things >that didn't make sense start to become clear for the first time. This >how a person begins to be able to think for themselves. It's extremely >difficult to lie to a person who has no greed, fear, or envy. This is >the power of faith. > >Wish I could explain it better. > >-RR > >-----Original Message----- >From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." >Sent: Feb 16, 2013 6:31 PM >To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: National Prayer Breakfast with Obama >Present > >SB, > >The Jews did not kill Jesus at all, the Romans did. > >The Roman church hasn't said that the Jews were responsible, that can >be verified. There were some members of the church that wrongly said >so, but it wasn't and isn't a teaching of the Catholic church, either >the Roman Rite or the Eastern Rites. > >73 >DR > > >“Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no >matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and >your own common sense.” - Buddha