[SI-LIST] Re: package SSN model accuracy requirements

  • From: "Muranyi, Arpad" <arpad.muranyi@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:32:30 -0800

Amen!!!

P.S.  I may develop that model you are asking for in AMS, and
if tool vendors see it fit to hard code it into their tool, so
be it.  It may even simulate faster that way...

Arpad
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-----Original Message-----
From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] =
On Behalf Of Chris Cheng
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 3:10 PM
To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: package SSN model accuracy requirements

Arpad,

Here's my wishes for the IBIS community.

1) Get Bird95/97 out the door ASAP

2) Make sure EDA vendors support those specs. It's one thing to create a
standard, it's another problem to make the EDA members to follow through =
and
put that into their tools. I truly wish you come back in one year and =
thumb
your nose at me saying "see, here's an ibis sso simulation with x,y,z
tools". It will be a win for all of us.

3) Start working on a behavioral definition on equalizing receivers. I =
am
increasingly see a lot of equalizing receivers at 4G and 10G designs and
it's time to put the ego on the back seat and get to work on a solution.
This is a huge one since there is no measurement for verification, it is
almost an exclusive problem of simulation and a leap of faith and I am
afraid the EDA community is lacking poorly. Save your energy arguing =
with me
and start working on a solution. By solution I don't mean another free =
for
all AMS model, I am talking about a well defined set of behavioral model
that any EDA vendor can hard code into their tools. AMS may fly in our =
live
time but 4G/10G equalizing receiver is a problem that will exist =
tomorrow if
not today.

Peace,
Chris
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