what a concept!....breed GSDs to do what they were breed to do?......well I don't mean to sound "flip"....we in this "show" area breed to win!...plain and simple...oh yea folks will give you that old stand by..."only breed to improve the breed"......BS...improve it to do what....chase bad guys, herd farmer John's sheep, lead my blind ex-wife.....oh no...we breed ( conformation breeders) to have that dog run around the ring looking for us...we breed to win....and I am involved too, so I am not criticizing what we do....but lets call it the way it is.........its a sport to some, hobby for others and a business for a few others....we enjoy doing it...unfortunately there are far to many people doing it who shouldn't be.....Edwin "B" Hill Stephen Reierstad <wmj1944@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Dania wrote: <can around the ring - the only difference is that the handler has learned to run very fast and can keep up with the race. Is that how we want to see our dogs shown? I really would like to know the Listers' opinions.>> I am still new to the Breed, but it seems to me that our dogs should be shown in a gait which is a natural speed and tempo. When herding Sheep, which is what they were bred to do, Even our GSD's couldn't run full tilt all day. Why not have them shown gaiting at a speed closer to what they'd do when they're doing the work they were bred for? Steve Visit Two Feathers German Shepherds online at http://www.wmj1944.com Website updated 7/7/2005. "If you invite the Wolf to Dinner, then don't get mad when he eats something." - Unknown ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================