In a message dated 1/9/2006 8:50:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, MASSTANA@xxxxxxx writes: Lealynn@xxxxxxx writes: > If I had my way....all dogs would be judged without a handler <G> > My reaction to the above is the same as it has been every time this is brought up. The good handlers get (most often) the best dogs. ~~~~~~~~~~~ My comment was more tongue in cheek ( notice the <G> after it), but as a breeder, I evaluate my dogs loose without a lead and without a handler. Imagine being able to judge a dog au natural like they are in the herding arena without a handler? When I said "without a handler" I really meant "WITHOUT a handler <G> Liz http://www.lealynn.com/ Websites by lealynn GSDCA member since 1976 Signers of the Breeders Code ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================