[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Inbreeding - A tool to test the health of your line

  • From: Lindenhill German Shepherds <lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:10:11 +0000 (UTC)

Kathy Writes:
Well, I DO know my lines

Mike replles:
As do I

Kathy Writes:
...I asking how long YOU keep and grow out an entire litter that were produced 
by inbreeding before YOU offer a boy to the public...like you said in an 
earlier post, given that an awful lot of issues don't show up until later. 

Mike replles:
I didn't say I inbreed before offering him, we do offer on a limited basis 
until we confirm what we know, how else could you produce an inbred

You write below "He was bred several bitches with known problems, one had 
produced 5 or 6 megaeosophegos puppies, the other had had GI issues of her 
own." 

Kathy Writes:
Geeze, I'm glad I'm not unsuspecting John Q public that bought a puppy from 
either litter...I hope the people who bought puppies from the first were 
informed that if bred, there was a likelihood that their puppies MAY produce 
mega. I'm not about throwing the baby out w/ the bath water mind you, I have 
bred dogs to bitches that had previously produced mega. 

Mike Replies:
The first was done by the studs co-owner at the time, and we were unaware of 
the mega's till after the breeding(bitch owners hide things to). None the less 
that and the inbreeding confirmed he was not a carrier

Kathy Writes:
BUT call me crazy, I wouldn't knowingly breed one of my boys to a bitch who had 
GI issues. I don't want the calls from distraught owners and as a stud dog 
owner, I'm just as responsible as the bitch owner IMO. And unless you are 
growing out entire litters until well past middle age when some immune 
disorders, DM etc show up....well, then you can't say that inbreeding on such 
and such a line is clear now can you? 

Mike replies:
You can if you have approptiately kept tabs on those breedings.

Mikes Adds:
It's not perfect Kathy, and if you are concerned about doubling up on genetic 
concerns I can understand a breedres hesitiation. I wouldn't use this tool 
lightly, but for an occasionly test of your line I dont think there is a better 
one to date.
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