On 21/06/2011 22:13, Chris Neilson wrote:
When you are fighting you can either use Magnakai Weaponmastery OR Grand Weaponmastery (cf mindshield and psi-screen and kai-screen) you dont use both simultaneously. Its like fighting using Kung Fu Panda style and Praying Mantis style simultaneously, or (if youre a Fist of the North Star fan - Hokuto Shinken and Nanto Seiken).
Or, conversely, it would be like using knowledge from GCSE and A Level courses simultaneously. Which makes perfect sense!
I think that this gives a lot of weight to the idea that the Mentora bonus is a "hidden loyalty bonus" that can apply equally to GWM.Surely your Action Chart looks something like: Kai Disciplines: Weaponskill in _______ +2 COMBAT SKILL points if this weapon carried Mindshield: no points lost when attacked by Mindblast Mindblast: +2 COMBAT SKILL points Magnakai Disciplines: Weaponmastery: +4 COMBAT SKILL points, -1 COMBAT SKILL (unarmed), +2 bow/dagger throws Psi-screen: no points lost when attacked by Mindforce Psi-surge: +6 COMBAT SKILL points but -1 ENDURANCE points per round Grand Master Disciplines: Grand Weaponmastery: +5 COMBAT SKILL, +3 bow throws Kai-surge: +8 COMBAT SKILL but -1 ENDURANCE points per round or +4 COMBAT SKILL Kai-screen: How exactly can you apply the Mentora bonus to GWM? It obviously applies to WM. GWM is a completely different discipline.
...except that you are already getting a +3 to using a Bow with Weaponmastery right from the start of the Magnakai books: <http://www.projectaon.org/test/en/xhtml-less-simple/lw/06tkot/title.htm#sect170> (See also Sections 178, 243, 268, and 340.)
Then the Mentora bonus kicks in to make it...+5. Which then DROPS to +3 at Grand Weaponmastery level? So you actually get worse on attainment of a more advanced Discipline.
I *can* see where you're coming from on this, Chris; I had to double-check that the +3 Weaponmastery with Bow bonus did exist in the Magnakai books before responding, just to be sure. But the fact that you do get the +3 bonus for missile weapons with Weaponmastery right from The Kingdoms of Terror indicates to me that the later +2 Mentora bonus is /a permanent addition to/ [the section bonus + the RN-pick] rather than a standard Weaponmastery value that gets raised by 1 with attainment of Grand Weaponmastery.
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