-=PCTechTalk=- Re: puzzling problem

  • From: "Jo Ann Weaver" <bookworm54@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:04:30 -0400

GMan,

The power supply I'm using is a 400 watt that came out of my son's computer 
yesterday. He says it was working fine,
he just wanted a bigger one cause he's running a lot of stuff. It should be 
big enough as the old one was a 300 watt,
and there's not really much on this box. Just a 64 MB vudeo card, a sound 
card, ethernet card , USB card with two ports,
and the two optical drives, a DVD player and a CD-RW. I had some brand new 
IDE cables that came with my Asus board.
changed the hard drive and the CD drive one as well.

I've now removed all cards except the video and the one CD drive works 
again. The PS does have a four pin plug that is plugged
in. I set both drives to cable select, no go.  Whenever it won't boot the 
hard drive light is solid red.  I agree it seems like a power supply 
problem.
Would it be worthwhile (shudder) to pull the 500 watt PS out of my computer 
and try it, or else geta new power supply? Could the bord have a short
somewhere?

Jo Ann


> Jo Ann,
>    I'm heading there myself, but I've got to say that it sure sounds like
> you're learning a ton.  I'm most impressed with your decision to remove 
> the
> sound card instead of the modem when it wouldn't boot.  It looks like 
> you're
> getting to the bottom of the issue here, but it'll probably take moving to
> the hammer before it's done.
>
>    If both optical drives have a CS (Cable Select) option, set their
> jumpers accordingly and see if that helps.  CS has always been a flaky
> affair, but it just might help with this.  If it does what it's supposed 
> to
> do, the drive on the end of the cable will automatically be set as the
> Master by the chipset, while the drive in the middle becomes the Slave. 
> If
> it doesn't work, revert back to their regular jumper settings and try
> another cable.  If you don't have any more spares, you can always borrow 
> it
> from one of your own systems for a minute or two.  If it then works, tell
> the folks they need to spring for all new data cables.  It won't cost much
> at all and it's best to just replace all 3 before another one fails.
>
>    The musical daughterboard game you're playing (sound, modem, video,
> etc.) makes me wonder if the capacity of the PS is high enough for the
> things that are stuffed into the case.  Those cards get their power from 
> the
> slots and the slots get their power from the board.  The board must get
> enough power from the PS for all of the slots plus the memory, CPU, 
> chipset,
> fans, etc.  Again, look everywhere on that mainboard for a small, square 4
> socket port where a 4 pin connector from the PS should go.  It may not 
> have
> one, but if it does and it's not plugged in, the board is not getting 
> enough
> juice and the messed up add-on card fiasco you're dealing with would be 
> the
> likely result.
>
>    I sure hope you're able to work out the demons soon.       :O)
>
> Peace,
> G
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ypbuue
>
> "The only dumb questions are the ones we fail to ask!"
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jo Ann Weaver" <bookworm54@xxxxxxx>
> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 12:57 AM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: puzzling problem
>
>
>> GMan,
>> Ok, here's what's happening. I was checking connections and noticed the
>> hard
>> drive cable was a flat cable that somebody
>> wrapped material around to make it round and crimped it up.Replaced it
>> with
>> a new flat cable ( everything else still disconnected )
>> and it booted right up. Hooked up first optical drive which was a DVD
>> player, and still booted, hookep second CD-RW on the same cable
>> just like it was before, and no boot. The DVD is set to master on the end
>> of
>> the cable and the second one is slave. Unhooked second drive,
>> booted right up. Replaced second drive with another drive, no boot.
>> Decided
>> to let that go for now and replace cards. Put in sound card, booted.
>> Put in dial-up modem, no boot. Took out sound card, put in ethernet card,
>> booted up. Put in USB card, booted. Then no boot next time. Took out
>> sound card, booted up. Later repalced it, it still boots. It's booted
>> several times in a row and I played a game on it, but I'm still not
>> convinced it's ok.
>> Still won't boot with the second optical drive at all. Going to bed now,
>> will take a hammer to the thing tomorrow :)
>>
>> Jo Ann
>
>


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