Jo Ann, After a full reinstall, you can be pretty certain it's not the software. Not entirely certain, but pretty sure. If it never came on for them, then there a decent chance that something happened during its travels. The simplest of things are the first things to check. It could be that the switch on the back of the power supply was thrown the wrong way. You've already replaced that, so that's not it. Inside the case, a memory module may have popped out of its slot. It could even be caused by them plugging it into a wall socket that isn't supplying any power because the breaker had tripped. On the other hand, this could be as serious as a mainboard failure. With the case open, locate and carefully reseat the main power source to the mainboard. It's the 20 or more prong connector that attaches somewhere relatively close to the CPU. Since you are getting power to the extras (hard drive, optical drive, floppy, fans, etc.), this is the most likely place for a mainboard problem like this. Next, scan the rest of the mainboard to make sure there isn't one of those 4 pin ports that requires an additional 4 prong power supply line from the PS. Most modern boards require this extra power. If it needs one and doesn't have one, this will also cause this problem. You may find that the PS you used to replace the original doesn't have the cable. If that's the case, reinstall the original. Finally, turn on the system to see if the problem is gone. If all is good with the PS to the mainboard but it still doesn't work, disconnect everything except for the bare necessities (power supply, mainboard, CPU, RAM) and fire it up. If you don't hear any beeps, the mainboard may have seen its final days. If the board beeps (the pattern doesn't matter), turn it off again by holding in the power button for 4 seconds. So far so good. Hook up the hard drive & monitor and fire it up again. Can you hear the drive spin up? If not, the drive is probably bad. Install it into another system as a Slave and see if the OS can see any of it in Windows Explorer or My Computer to test it. If it does spin up, do you get anything on the monitor? If not, the video card or its port are suspect. If you can see it POST on the monitor, so far, so good again. Connect the optical &/or floppy drives and test it again. you may find that after running through these tests, it goes completely together and works just fine. That will indicate that something wasn't kosher in the original plugging in of the various devices. Many floppy drives have ports where you can easily plug in the cable backwards (no key notch to guide you). If the cable is in wrong, the drive LED will stay lit up constantly, but the drive itself will not function. Peace, G http://tinyurl.com/ypbuue "The only dumb questions are the ones we fail to ask!" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jo Ann Weaver" <bookworm54@xxxxxxx> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:56 PM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- puzzling problem > This computer I'm working on has me bamboozled. Here's the story. Custom > built box, running XP Pro, 2 gig Intel CPU, > single stick of RAM 512 MB. It was brought to me because it was slow and > they kept getting > kicked off the internet on their dial-up connection. Had recently got > broadband, but couldn't get it to install the software. > It had no active virus software. I installed AVG and Spybot S&D . Found a > few things and they deleted them, then started > having Windows errors. Talked to the owners, Formatted and re-installed > XP. Got everything working, installed AVG for them, > tested it a while and sent it home, working fine. They said it wouldn't > come on or do anything. Got it back, nothing worked, > no fans, no lights, nothing. Checked all connections, nothing. Changed > power supply. Now all fans work, hard drive light and > light on CD drive light up red and that's it. Getting nothing on the > monitor. Any ideas? > Jo Ann --------------------------------------------------------------- Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and everything below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. To unsubscribe or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ To contact only the PCTT Mod Squad, write to: pctechtalk-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ---------------------------------------------------------------