Hi Ekhart, Saturday, June 12, 2004, 2:23:09 AM, you wrote: EGlnl> You're right; looks like i misunderstood something i'd heard. I guess I think Apple *did* claim it during some lawsuit or other, not certain. I'm too lazy to go look at the Apple_v._Microsoft link at the moment, but I suppose it discusses that. EGlnl> commercialize a GUI. Does that mean the Xerox Alto wasn't a commercial EGlnl> success? This was in the home computer era, I think, before IBM and Microsoft made things relatively standard. I think most of the Xerox stuff was research-oriented, not commercial. I remember watching Windows 3.x start up on them old PCs; quite slow, even on a 12Mhz or so. EGlnl> PS Wikipedia is wonderful. That reminds me to take a look at and EGlnl> contribute to your helpdesk wiki once i have time. One thing i wanted to EGlnl> suggest was correcting the keyboard input for resizing columns from EGlnl> Alt-+ to Ctrl+"plus sign on number pad" (and changing the minus sign in EGlnl> all the keyboard commands to a plus sign, or did you have a reason to EGlnl> differ from the common notation?) I'd prefer for it to be standard. The last few weeks, both on the list and at work, have provided many subjects, such as how to identify, remove, and prevent malware, and how to repair Verifone Tranz 330 and 380 credit card terminals (includes diagnostic keyboard commands that I've been totally unable to find online). It's easy enough to simply call the help desk, but that starts to sound rather ridiculous when you have 3 dozen terminals to test and put back into service... :) Unfortunately, I've been trying to get some other stuff out of the way, so haven't bothered to poke at it. Feel free to contribute to existing pages or make new pages, as needed. --Scott. -------list-services-below----------- Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Latest news live feeds at http://modecideas.com/indexhomenews.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.