I would have been tempted to tap his knee cap with a bigger hammer. Al Messer --- Pendragon <idpriest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hubert, > > I remember as an apprentice at Walter Somers Ltd > being given a plate = > about > six inches square to scrape flat. The piece I had > been given wasn't too = > bad > and when I'd done it the trainer must have seen the > smug look on my face > cause he then took a hammer and bruised the surface > with the comment, = > 'Now > get that flat'. > > All part of life's rich tapestry. > > Regards IP. > > "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the > intention of = > arriving > safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but > rather to skid in > sideways, Champagne in one hand - strawberries in > the other,=20 > body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and > screaming WOO HOO - What a > Ride!"=20 > =20 > "Never drive faster than your gaurdian angel can > fly" > =20 > Priest & Sons Model Engineers > http://www.kinvermes.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/p1.htm > > > -----Original Message----- > From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx = > [mailto:modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of shep > Sent: 02 January 2006 11:09 > To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [modeleng] Re: Scraping > > > AL - this sounds like a simple and fail-safe idea! > > It will be interesting to find out where Nicholson > make their files. = > At=20 > the end of the War, they published a booklet called > 'File Filosophy', = > which=20 > was a mine of information. I think that I still > have the copy! > > I was thinking of your comments about chipping, and > this lead me to = > remember > > the heroic amount of scraping done on machines, > prior to the advent of = > huge=20 > surface grinders. I spent some time at the > Linotype Factory (near=20 > Manchester) in 1951, and actually assembled parts of > these typesetting=20 > dinosaurs. > They also made flat-bed, two-revolution letterpress > printing machines=20 > (Miehles, originally designed in Chicago), up to a > maximum paper size of = > > 40" x 60". > This meant that a huge flat cast-iron bed, bigger > than the paper size, = > held=20 > 64 pages of heavy type metal, and reciprocated the > whole caboodle at = > about=20 > 2,000 sheets per hour. Four pistons (two at each > end) cushioned the = > shock=20 > of reversal. These huge beds had steel runners > below which ran on = > rollers, > > which in turn ran on about six supporting tracks. > All of this had to = > be=20 > scraped by hand - weeks of work! The colossal > straight-edges were = > lowered > > onto the work by crane! They made their own > castings and these were = > left=20 > outside in the rain (this was, after all, > Manchester!) for several = > months=20 > before machining on huge planing machines. This > 'weathering' allowed = > the=20 > stresses in the cast iron to equalise. It must have > been hell to change = > the > > design and then wait months to make a prototype! > With the advent of=20 > photo-typesetting, early computers and offset litho, > both the Linotypes = > and=20 > the Miehles were dead and buried within 20 years. > > I must stop muttering in my non-existent beard! > > Cheers! Hubert > > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Allen Messer" <al_messer@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 1:24 AM > Subject: [modeleng] Re: Fw: Re: Adept/Super Adept > lathes > > > > Hubert, my trick is to make a jig out of a piece > of > > Silver Steel and drill and tap it for the thread > to > > fit the headless screw. Then accurately cut a > slot > > across one end and harden it file hard. In use, > the > > threaded rod is screwed into the jig flush with > the > > top, and the jig clamped in the bench vise. Use > the > > slot in the jig to center a thin bladed hacksaw in > the headless screw=20 > > and have at it--gently, of course. > > > > Al Messer > >=20 > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email > to,=20 > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > "unsubscribe" in the = > subject > line. > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email > to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > "unsubscribe" in the subject line. > __________________________________ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.