John, No but I think I nearly did. Regards IP "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, Champagne in one hand - strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!" "Never drive faster than your gaurdian angel can fly" Priest & Sons Model Engineers http://www.kinvermes.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/p1.htm -----Original Message----- From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Buckley Sent: 02 January 2006 17:30 To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [modeleng] Re: Scraping Ian, Did by any chance the trainer die that day? John B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pendragon" <idpriest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:35 AM Subject: [modeleng] Re: Scraping > Hubert, > > I remember as an apprentice at Walter Somers Ltd being given a plate = > about six inches square to scrape flat. The piece I had been given > wasn't too = bad > and when I'd done it the trainer must have seen the smug look on my face > cause he then took a hammer and bruised the surface with the comment, = > 'Now > get that flat'. > > All part of life's rich tapestry. > > Regards IP. > > "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of = > arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather > to skid in sideways, Champagne in one hand - strawberries in the > other,=20 body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO > HOO - What a Ride!"=20 > =20 > "Never drive faster than your gaurdian angel can fly" > =20 > Priest & Sons Model Engineers > http://www.kinvermes.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/p1.htm > > > -----Original Message----- > From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx = > [mailto:modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of shep > Sent: 02 January 2006 11:09 > To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [modeleng] Re: Scraping > > > AL - this sounds like a simple and fail-safe idea! > > It will be interesting to find out where Nicholson make their files. = > At=20 > the end of the War, they published a booklet called 'File Filosophy', > = which=20 > was a mine of information. I think that I still have the copy! > > I was thinking of your comments about chipping, and this lead me to = > remember > > the heroic amount of scraping done on machines, prior to the advent of > = huge=20 > surface grinders. I spent some time at the Linotype Factory (near=20 > Manchester) in 1951, and actually assembled parts of these > typesetting=20 dinosaurs. They also made flat-bed, two-revolution > letterpress printing machines=20 (Miehles, originally designed in > Chicago), up to a maximum paper size of = > > 40" x 60". > This meant that a huge flat cast-iron bed, bigger than the paper size, > = held=20 64 pages of heavy type metal, and reciprocated the whole > caboodle at = about=20 > 2,000 sheets per hour. Four pistons (two at each end) cushioned the = > shock=20 > of reversal. These huge beds had steel runners below which ran on = > rollers, > > which in turn ran on about six supporting tracks. All of this had to = > be=20 > scraped by hand - weeks of work! The colossal straight-edges were = > lowered > > onto the work by crane! They made their own castings and these were = > left=20 > outside in the rain (this was, after all, Manchester!) for several = > months=20 > before machining on huge planing machines. This 'weathering' allowed = > the=20 > stresses in the cast iron to equalise. It must have been hell to > change = the > > design and then wait months to make a prototype! With the advent of=20 > photo-typesetting, early computers and offset litho, both the > Linotypes = and=20 the Miehles were dead and buried within 20 years. > > I must stop muttering in my non-existent beard! > > Cheers! Hubert > > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Allen Messer" <al_messer@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 1:24 AM > Subject: [modeleng] Re: Fw: Re: Adept/Super Adept lathes > > > > Hubert, my trick is to make a jig out of a piece of > > Silver Steel and drill and tap it for the thread to > > fit the headless screw. Then accurately cut a slot > > across one end and harden it file hard. In use, the threaded rod is > > screwed into the jig flush with the top, and the jig clamped in the > > bench vise. Use the slot in the jig to center a thin bladed hacksaw > > in the headless screw=20 and have at it--gently, of course. > > > > Al Messer > >=20 > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to,=20 > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the = > subject line. > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the > subject line. > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line. MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.