Hi Alan The other day, a friend asked me how to cut the frame for his first locomotive. I shall give him your message and suggest that he tries the cold chisel route! Enjoy your pension! When I retired about fifteen years ago, and suddenly had to do all the little chores which were previously handled by staff at work, I wondered where I had found the time to do any work at all! It is indeed a crying shame that all young folk entering the engineering industry have lost the advice and tuition of those who went before. Part of their training ought to be working in the iron works at Ironbridge for a week or two! I am fascinated by Ironbridge - particularly by the furnace used by Abraham Darby I, the first to produce iron in quantity, using coke instead of charcoal. That furnace is the linear ancestor of every machine that has been built since then! Cheers! Hubert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Stepney" <alesara2@xxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 8:41 PM Subject: [modeleng] Re: Scraping >I have been very fortunate in that in my early days, > I met many elderly(?) retired engineers who were > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.