Hubert, I remember as an apprentice at Walter Somers Ltd being given a plate = about six inches square to scrape flat. The piece I had been given wasn't too = bad and when I'd done it the trainer must have seen the smug look on my face cause he then took a hammer and bruised the surface with the comment, = 'Now get that flat'. All part of life's rich tapestry. Regards IP. "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of = arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, Champagne in one hand - strawberries in the other,=20 body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!"=20 =20 "Never drive faster than your gaurdian angel can fly" =20 Priest & Sons Model Engineers http://www.kinvermes.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/p1.htm -----Original Message----- From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx = [mailto:modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of shep Sent: 02 January 2006 11:09 To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [modeleng] Re: Scraping AL - this sounds like a simple and fail-safe idea! It will be interesting to find out where Nicholson make their files. = At=20 the end of the War, they published a booklet called 'File Filosophy', = which=20 was a mine of information. I think that I still have the copy! I was thinking of your comments about chipping, and this lead me to = remember the heroic amount of scraping done on machines, prior to the advent of = huge=20 surface grinders. I spent some time at the Linotype Factory (near=20 Manchester) in 1951, and actually assembled parts of these typesetting=20 dinosaurs. They also made flat-bed, two-revolution letterpress printing machines=20 (Miehles, originally designed in Chicago), up to a maximum paper size of = 40" x 60". This meant that a huge flat cast-iron bed, bigger than the paper size, = held=20 64 pages of heavy type metal, and reciprocated the whole caboodle at = about=20 2,000 sheets per hour. Four pistons (two at each end) cushioned the = shock=20 of reversal. These huge beds had steel runners below which ran on = rollers, which in turn ran on about six supporting tracks. All of this had to = be=20 scraped by hand - weeks of work! The colossal straight-edges were = lowered onto the work by crane! They made their own castings and these were = left=20 outside in the rain (this was, after all, Manchester!) for several = months=20 before machining on huge planing machines. This 'weathering' allowed = the=20 stresses in the cast iron to equalise. It must have been hell to change = the design and then wait months to make a prototype! With the advent of=20 photo-typesetting, early computers and offset litho, both the Linotypes = and=20 the Miehles were dead and buried within 20 years. I must stop muttering in my non-existent beard! Cheers! Hubert ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Allen Messer" <al_messer@xxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 1:24 AM Subject: [modeleng] Re: Fw: Re: Adept/Super Adept lathes > Hubert, my trick is to make a jig out of a piece of > Silver Steel and drill and tap it for the thread to > fit the headless screw. Then accurately cut a slot > across one end and harden it file hard. In use, the > threaded rod is screwed into the jig flush with the > top, and the jig clamped in the bench vise. Use the > slot in the jig to center a thin bladed hacksaw in the headless screw=20 > and have at it--gently, of course. > > Al Messer >=20 MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to,=20 modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the = subject line. MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.