--- On Fri, 12/12/08, Phil Enns <phil.enns@gmail > What is illiberal is the attempt to present agreement on > private > projects as evidence for their being public. As is > defenestration, > but that was a different thread. This is not what Phil previously said; but even if you can move goal-posts in this way without any adverse comment being passed, I still can't agree: as citizens in a liberal society may be members of both its private and its public spheres, it seems to me that whatever they agree in one sphere may be some evidence of what they would agree in the other. Unless Phil means merely that "private projects" does not become a "public" projects merely because people agree to them as "private projects" - but who has argued against this Aunt Sally? And could they ever do so on supposed liberal grounds? Donal ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html