John McCreery wrote: "If nothing else, this fragmentation makes it increasingly difficult to reconstitute the common ground for rational discourse once provided by liberal education." But, according to liberalism, isn't the common ground for rational discourse found, not in a grand unifying theory, but in the commitment to the moral worth of human beings and the belief that it is possible to agree on particular public projects despite disagreeing on a great many private ones? If this is the case, then the attempt to construct a 'common ground for rational discourse' beyond the above moral and pragmatic 'propositions' would be anti-liberal. I am also curious what the anthropologist in John thinks of the propositions. The culture I currently swim in is built on ambiguity and the rejection of economy. A good speech is one that is lengthy with many rhetorical flourishes. Content, as I/we think of it, is largely irrelevant since truth is not the product of propositions and assertions. I just don't think many Javanese would be impressed with the propositions. I wonder what John, with his anthropologists hat on, thinks of them. Sincerely, Phil Enns Lost in Java ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html