My own Macscholarship below:- --- On Wed, 10/12/08, Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > The concept would seem to have been imported by Spencer > from Darwin; the actual phrase was first used, as reported > below, by Herbert Spencer, he seems to have got the idea > from Darwin. Darwin didn't use the expression in print > until the 5th printing of Origin [1869], where it's the > title of Book IV. (Origin was first published in 1859.) As Darwin did not use the expression, and as according to the Wikipedia entry Darwin credited the phrase to Spencer, it seems clear that the idea for the expression was not Darwin's but Spencer's. All that can be said is that Spencer was inspired by Darwin's work, and that Darwin subsequently adopted the expression - perhaps because, while it lacked the analogy with 'breeders' that 'natural selection' implied, it also lacked the unfortunate anthropomorphic connotations of 'selection'. It is significant that Darwin apparently only adopts the phrase in the 5th edition. _The Origin Of Species_ is one of those books that gets worse once it passes the 2nd edition - which is just the first edition with typos corrected. In subsequent editions Darwin tried to revise and modify his theory to accomodate his critics: as a result he made concessions to Lamarckian thinking that, while showing his admirable lack of dogmatism, were unwarranted. Thus the 2nd edition, and not the flawed 5th, is currently the classic, standard edition. The hard-line 'Natural Selection' defended in the first two editions is what modern science accepts as correct, and it regards as mistaken Darwin's various concessions and watering-down of his original thesis in subsequent editions. > 'This preservation of favourable individual differences > and variations, and the destruction of those which are > injurious, I have called Natural Selection, or the Survival > of the Fittest.' [Darwin, Origin] Hence this quotation cannot be taken as Darwin claiming that he was originator of the phrase "Survival of the Fittest". MacDonal MacEngland MacWorld ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html