[lit-ideas] Re: Islam, Israel and the Code of the West

  • From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 16:45:27 -0700

Simon:  It doesn't mean I would support anything.  I have a position of
Militant Islam.  You haven't really proved the Likud predecessor was a
terrorist organization any more than you could prove that the French
Resistance during WWII was a terrorist organization.  Who said the Irgun was
a terrorist organization?  Someone from the Haganah?  That's why there was a
split.  The pacifists didn't like the activists.  Big deal.  It was a
different time in which nothing existed that corresponds to a Militant
Islamic Terrorist organization.  But so what?  Why should I voice opinions
about matters I'm not interested in to suit someone's deviant interests?  

 

I continue to believe that Militant Islamic nations should be defeated, and
the threat of militant Islamic terrorist organizations should be sanitized.


 

Lawrence

 

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From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Simon Ward
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:31 PM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Islam, Israel and the Code of the West

 

I feel fine Lawrence. It's a bit warm here, sticky almost, but apart from
that, I feel fine.

 

However, I'm not convinced that your position, what you mean, is supportable
since it implies that you would support terrorist methods providing you
thought the cause was right. 

 

I also think that you were ready to defend Irgun until it became obvious
that they were terrorists. Now you're convinced that they were terrorists
you're miffed and want to restrict the discussion to militant islam. In
itself, that precludes my first point, but it also suggests that you don't
want to consider it because while you support the cause (an Israeli State)
you don't approve of the methods that attained it (terrorism).

 

For many, that provides Israel's inherent contradiction; it was a state that
was founded on terrorism but which now abhors it. That's what I think by the
way.

 

Simon

 

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Lawrence <mailto:lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>  Helm 

To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:18 AM

Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Islam, Israel and the Code of the West

 

Do you get to say what I mean or do I?  I'd like to think that I know what I
mean.  I am not talking about all the groups of the past that might
technically fit someone's definition.  I am talking about Militant Islam.  I
don't need to provide an all inclusive statement each time I say
"Terrorist."  It should be understood, and is, that I mean "Militant Islamic
Terrorist." 

 

Militant Islamic Terrorist organizations should be exterminated.  There, do
you feel better now?

 

Lawrence

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